Andrew: 0:13

Welcome to Realm Jumpers. I'm Andrew and this is my co-host, jordan hey everyone.

Jordan: 0:18

We're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and anime, bringing you epic stories and unforgettable adventures.

Andrew: 0:25

We'll be talking world building, unforgettable villains and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the realm, All right, dude? So what's up? Episode zero how do you feel about this?

Jordan: 0:40

Oh, it's like a prologue man. This is like serious shit, dude.

Andrew: 0:44

I mean, might as well do it after we're gonna do it absolutely, man.

Jordan: 0:48

This is uh, I'm excited, man. It's been uh something we've been kicking around for a minute, so it's fun to jump in right both feet.

Andrew: 0:55

Yeah, absolutely, I'm pretty excited about this. I um ten toes down, yeah, no, I mean there's a everybody wants to podcast, right, like that's the thing. Everybody wants to. Uh, to do something, get you know insta famous or whatever I. I don't particularly care about being insta famous, I just don't live near any of my friends, so it's kind of nice to be able to talk to people yeah, you know what I relate, I really 100.

Jordan: 1:20

Yeah, I'm not really. I don't really care about getting famous, but hey, it's fun to hey, it's fun to talk shit. It's fun to talk about fantasy. Obviously, there's a million Everything's fantasy-tied these days, right yeah?

Andrew: 1:30

exactly. So I guess we're just kind of starting this off doing our origin stories tonight and talking about why we started this or why we're starting this podcast, what we want to talk about. So that way everybody knows what we're starting this podcast, what we want to talk about, um.

Jordan: 1:44

So that way everybody knows what we're, what we're all about you want to go first, since you're the uh, you're the og.

Andrew: 1:49

Here is your idea first yeah, sure, man, I can go first. Um, okay, I say, ah, too much. Okay, we'll figure that out, you'll be all right, it's authentic. Now I mean, I guess, uh, I mean fantasy and anime for me tie together, but it's all kind of ties into the same thing, it's. I don't really separate them out. I mean fantasy and anime for me tie together, but it's all kind of ties into the same thing, it's.

Andrew: 2:06

I don't really separate them out. I mean, I know they are completely separate genres, like you have, you know, your epic fantasy, um, sword of truth, wheel of time, anything, brandon sanderson, and then you've got like epic animes, completely on the opposite side of the field, and most people treat those as separate genres. Um, and they are. You know, they really are they. They have their each of, have their own merits, but there's a lot of tie-ins, um, there's a lot of things that mesh up, there's a lot of things that go together and really for me I can't separate the two. You know, kind of my love for anime ties into my love for fantasy. I can read a fantasy book and I'll be like damn it, dude, this should be an anime.

Jordan: 2:46

Um, and it's not the worst, though but isn't that the worst when you're like please be an anime, and it's not?

Andrew: 2:51

yeah, or you wait five years for them to make an anime and they do a one season run of 12 episodes and it's all filler episodes and it's all cliffhanger.

Jordan: 3:01

Wait, no, the last three are always story, but then you're like more and then it's gone for six years yeah, um, so really, yeah, that's what it is for me like it.

Andrew: 3:10

You know just the two of them, the, the two genres are kind of inseparable for me. They, they, for me they tie together. It's the same thing in my brain. Um, the way the lizard brain works, it just puts it all together, makes it kind of one big thing.

Jordan: 3:26

I get it, man, 100%. I mean, for me too, being a writer and stuff, most of my stuff is somehow fantasy adjacent. So that love of doing all that started being a kid, right? Like watching anime after school. And Dragon Ball Z's fantasy they're flying, I don't care what you're going to say, it's fantasy, it's not science fiction, right? So watching all that Berserk, of course, the OG, the rip your heart out.

Jordan: 3:48

Oh my God, is this really happening in an anime? What the hell kind of story is this? You know, really set me on, for me personally, I'm just like, oh, it's not just, you know, action, action, dragon Ball Z or the other ones kids, right? Uh, yeah, there's some ones kids, right? Um, and that was the first one where it was like brutal, like so brutal that it really made a mark like, oh, you can tell, ultra dark fantasy, gripping and engaged, and you know the blend for me, right, like the kind of what you're saying.

Jordan: 4:15

I mean, I love manga, comics, novels too, but something with the anime and like when they nail that music, oh man, that's a wrap. Man, you're done. You're just sitting there like it hits you and you're just like staring open mouth like yo, that's crazy, you know whatever. No, absolutely. You know. Even movies like, yeah, movies will have great music obviously and stuff and and maybe it's just a me thing, but for whatever reason, I can watch movies not really get that emotional, whatever, but certain anime scenes it's a wrap. Man, I'm like feeling all of stuff. You're a dad and you're watching something. There's a kid, you know family dynamic in there. You're done, it's, it's, it's done.

Andrew: 4:50

No, I agree. Yeah, you know, I mean we're completely jumping all over the place, but I mean I what you just said right there, you gotta go full metal alchemist. You know, full Metal Alchemist. Oh gosh, you gotta go Full Metal Alchemist at what's-his-face's funeral Maze.

Jordan: 5:10

Oh yeah, it's a good day or a bad day for rain or whatever You're done, that's a wrap. And seeing those types of anime as a kid or you know teen and you're growing up and all that stuff and you know, when we were kids that shit wasn't cool. You weren't cool to know anime, like nobody knew what you were talking about, or they hid it.

Jordan: 5:27

Whatever. And you know growing up and then getting older and it's just that fantasy genre is 100% in any role, you know, whether it's a movie, tv show or it's just it's shit. And I think this podcast will be so fun because we'll be able to really dive into certain series and stuff, just chat about it, analyze it, what we like, hate, whatever. It'll be fun, it'll be awesome.

Andrew: 5:52

Yeah, I absolutely agree. You did mention something, though, and I really don't feel like we've ever actually talked about it too much. How did you get into writing? I know you've authored some webcomics. The web comics came before your books, right, yeah?

Jordan: 6:09

Yeah, yeah. So you know, honestly, it's going to sound like absolutely ridiculous, but any man listening will understand when your sister dares you to do something, you're going to do it Like you just have to do it like you're a man right, like get on it, just have to do it like you're a man right, like, get on it and and it all. Funny enough, it all filler you mentioned. It all started because of filler and bleach, which I was bitching and complaining about, filler and bleach. And she was like, well, why don't you write your own? Then, if you know, you know how to you, you know, you know how to do it. So and I just was like, fine, I will, you know whatever, being stubborn. But uh, I was never a writer in school, I didn't like any of that stuff. I didn't write essays, like english sucked, whatever. And at 20, whatever, I just decided to let me write a script, then I'm gonna know how to do it, and just bumbled my way through and figured it out and watched videos, kind of just man, felt it out, and uh, you know, okay, cool, you wrote a script. What do you? What do you do now? Right, yeah, I'm like 21, so this is like 19, 18 years ago. You know, okay, cool, you wrote a script. What do you? What do you do now? Right, yeah, I'm like 21, so this is like 19, 18 years ago.

Jordan: 7:08

You know, the internet was, of course, a thing, but it wasn't. I can't draw, for shit. I tried, man, I can't draw. I'm talking about what I can't. I don't have it, I just don't. And uh, funny enough, it started on facebook.

Jordan: 7:17

I just found an artist and grew art group, you know manga group. She started drawing it. We started selling it. They would take half, I would take half, and it was literally just like oh, people will just like I have a passion for the story, but I can't draw. There's plenty of people who can draw but necessarily maybe can't craft the story that you know the way they, you know the best way or the way they want to. And it was just teaming up with people and you know, time went on and on and next, the next thing, you know, I have like published web comics. I have a graphic novel that was published out there and I just really wanted to try novels. I mean, why not challenge yourself, right? That was the one good thing of COVID for me, was I'm going to dare myself to do a book, you know, and I just went for it and it was really hard and challenging, but it was really fun.

Andrew: 8:10

And when you complete it, there's something just really crazy, like I like I wrote no dude, that's amazing. Um, I've tried to put in the paper several times and I just uh, I sit there and I look at it and I'm like, well, I wrote a character intro sheet. Now what? What do I do now?

Jordan: 8:19

yeah, you just man. You just go for that shit dude. You just jump in there and you fucking swim, man, that's all you can do, just yeah you're, you're a panzer dude.

Andrew: 8:27

I can't, I can't fly by the seat of my pants like that, that's that's all you just jump in there and write that is not look, can't, dude, I've always been a winger man.

Jordan: 8:36

Just wing it, dude, like just wing it. That's how I do it.

Andrew: 8:39

Wing it um doesn't always work, but yeah, funny enough for all anybody that, uh, all of our future listeners. Um, jordan and I met in a very strange kind of funky way. So jordan wrote a webtoon called deck of fates and I, uh, I ran across it. I was looking for something to breeze through on my reader and, um, I ran across this thing called Deck of Fates and I had recently watched the Akashic Records of the Bastard Magic Instructor and I, literally, I was just like this kind of feels, like that. I was like not in the ripoff sense, not that I thought the author ripped it off, I was just like it's got a vibe, thought the author ripped it off, I was just like it's got a vibe and that was the vibe for me. And so I started reading it and I you know I was not regularly reading it, but I was reading it and following along and like I had it saved in my bookmarks.

Jordan: 9:35

And I pulled it out. I was like look at this.

Andrew: 9:38

Probably two or three years later. Two or three years later, my wife's like, oh, yeah, I, yeah, I'm going to be busy X and X weekend. I'm going to be in Tammy's wedding and I'm like, well, who's Tammy? And she was like, oh, I went to school with her blah, blah, blah telling me the story. So I look up Tammy on Facebook.

Jordan: 10:00

Wait, as you should, as you should. Who's this lady? I need to know what's going on. What's my wife talking about? A hundred percent as you should.

Andrew: 10:08

Yeah, exactly Like I had to. No, I mean it's just you know that's the uh. We live in the social media world now, so you know I had to go check out, like you know, what's going on, who she's talking about, Uh, also 500 things that day, so like it was kind of hard not to see. You have to look, yeah, right. So yeah, as you as one does, you know, I followed it to, uh, to tammy's page and you know I I see that, uh, she, you know she's in a relationship with jordan, um, because you guys weren't yet married, and so I'm like jordan troggy, that name sounds familiar. I was like I swear to god, I've seen that before yeah, I mean it's a weird assass name.

Jordan: 10:44

I mean, come on.

Andrew: 10:45

So you know, lo and behold, I look up the name and there it is Deck of Fates author. And I'm like, oh my God, I got to meet this guy.

Jordan: 10:54

Remember when you pulled that shit, dude, when I met you we were like look, you guys can't tell, but this dude's like 7'9", seven, nine. He's not, but he's huge he's birthed.

Jordan: 11:03

Look, he's birthed from thor's left nut. I'm telling the guy's cute. So I'm like five, nine or something, staying next to him like this guy's a giant, he's gonna fucking just kill me. First time I met him and he's like I have something cool to tell you. Pulls out his phone, scrolls fucking. Years back probably it was on webtoon, right. Look, I used to read this and I was like why didn't you finish it? And you're like I will, I promise, I promise I'll finish it. Yeah, small world man, super weird. But I was like, ah, he's a cool dude and of course, obviously we love anime and fantasy and all the same shit. Although I can't get him to life, me, to write his damn book, I, yeah, I've been trying for years to get you to do this it.

Andrew: 11:47

It might be a while for that. Um, the other weird dichotomy kind of and we've kind of danced around it here for a few minutes, like you are our crossover point is the anime, because you're super into manga and webtoons, webcomics, which for me a little bit, but not nearly as much. Typically, you know, you'll talk about something like solo leveling and you're like oh yeah, man, the webcomic was insane, and I'm like the webcomic insane, and I'm like the webcomic. The light novel was insane. Dude, what are you talking about?

Jordan: 12:20

you are the light novel king, so I mean you got me being on the light novels man. Yeah, I, I just. Then here's the thing with the books. I said today I was like I really should read more and I and I want to. As far as novels and stuff besides web comics, that's pretty much what I read these days.

Jordan: 12:34

But it's like if I have the time to dive into a book, I should be writing. And it's like this guilt, like hangover thing. Man just sits there even though I mean I'll watch a show or a movie, whatever. But like, if there's, I'm like I should be writing if I'm gonna be reading a book. I don't know if it's like a stupid thing in my own brain it probably is, um, but I it's my one like weird little regret. I was like man, I really should read way more books. But I just like I don't know, I don't know if I it's like I don't, I don't want to commit the time that I have to it. No, because I should be writing when I should be reading. That you know, I don't know, it's the battle yeah, um, I I've only what you're talking about.

Andrew: 13:14

There is funny, because my father-in-law was the exact same, but in reverse. Um, after he authored his few books, he, uh, he took a job at a publishing company and he was literally just reviewing stuff all day and he said he read so much crap that he couldn't bring himself to pick up a book anymore. Um, I mean, it makes sense.

Jordan: 13:34

I don't.

Andrew: 13:35

I don't want to read anything. Um yeah, not established novels, nothing. I mean, it makes sense. I don't know. I don't want to read anything. Yeah yeah, Not established novels, Nothing new. I haven't reread a book in years. I'm like that is sad.

Jordan: 13:44

It's just, it's weird because, like, as a kid growing up I did love to read and everything I didn't like writing. But now, as a 39 year old, it's like you know, full time job, parent, husband, all that stuff. And then it's like, and I'm not going to give up writing ever. So either I'm writing a script or a season two or whatever of a web comic I'm doing. And Deck of Fates actually is what really kind of gave me my chance to remake that original story.

Jordan: 14:12

That I started writing was because of Deck of Fates, because it was so popular that the publisher was like, hey, we'll pay an art team, like professional art team, pitch us a script. And I pitched them the original script. I mean I rewrote it obviously because I was 22 or whatever, 21. And that became the Fallen, which was a very popular website and yeah, yeah, it's so funny enough season two. I'm working on that now. So this is the thing like I'm doing season two of that. I have a new series, mythical, that I'm doing from the ground up. Uh, that's like a superhero, my take on a superhero webtoon thing. But then also I'm gonna write my, my third, my other book I'm writing.

Jordan: 14:51

So it's like oh, I don't have a lot of time, you know, with all that and it's like read a book or just like watch this show, because you kind of just do it and you know whatever. Yeah, so I'm a terrible reader.

Andrew: 15:02

I should be reading way more I guess that's what you have me for, because I I will be like no, bro, that's not what we're, that's not what was supposed to yeah, yeah, yeah.

Jordan: 15:12

Literally it's like that didn't happen this way.

Andrew: 15:13

That was like I mean, we talked about this earlier it was so low leveling I was like I love it.

Jordan: 15:18

Remember that dude.

Andrew: 15:19

I thought I just I was I. And again, this is not criticism of the anime. I love the anime story. Things are going to change. I just was slightly irritated by a few of the things they changed that I think overall might affect the way the character arc is shown.

Jordan: 15:36

Well, bro, they almost put it in Japan instead of Korea, so this is a win. They kept it in Korea, so I'm happy.

Andrew: 15:44

Is it a Korean studio? I thought it was a Japanese studio.

Jordan: 15:48

No, it's a Japanese anime studio, but the web, the author, and apparently when they went to animate it, they wanted to originally change it to be take place in tokyo and change his name and just completely, pretty much just change the entire story at that, because if you're gonna do that, then that's not so lovely, there's a very clear reason why they wanted to do that.

Andrew: 16:11

I mean, yeah, like come on and um, but the fan base.

Jordan: 16:14

They rose up when the I think somebody leaked it at the studio. I think somebody leaked it to try to like get the fans to see it and then I mean it went crazy because people were like you're not going to change the story. Like, if you're going to adapt it, adapt it. You know, like, just adapt. You know the way the author wanted. Like that's my biggest thing and that's why I hate filler, because it's not supposed to be in it, like it's not part of the story. Just do the story. You know, those four days are kind of over though in anime, right, like I don't think there's filler anymore.

Andrew: 16:42

I mean I don't mind a little bit of filler. You know, like perfect example of fairy tale. You know they've got filler episodes here and there and that doesn't. That doesn't bother me that much. Um, unless they're completely changing the story when they just do some slice of life filler. I'm like you know, it's actually kind of interesting every once in a while when you to throw in there before in between.

Jordan: 17:06

Uh, you know epic fight um arcs. Well, I shouldn't say I don't do it because boruto, the anime is 90, so yeah, um, which is ridiculous. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's a lot, it's gotta. But the actual story is great. I mean it's pretty good. It's not Naruto, but it's pretty good. But the filler is just insane. The whole show is crazy.

Andrew: 17:25

One Piece feels like it's all filler, but it's not all filler. I can't hold you back. It's 1,300 points. I can't do it. I can't even do it.

Jordan: 17:35

I'll never ride a book again. I'll be done.

Andrew: 17:41

I'm having that engraved on my tombstone when I get to the end of One Piece. I watched all 1400 episodes. I finished it. It's funny, it's such an anime head.

Jordan: 17:51

That's the one series. Big series for me that I just I'm never going to do it. I you know. Big series for me that I just I'm never going to do it. Yeah.

Andrew: 17:59

I, I don't know, I, I'm, I go. I don't even remember the name of the arc. Right now I I'm stuck somewhere at about episode 500. I had to take a break, dude, look at that.

Jordan: 18:09

That's crazy. I could never I do.

Andrew: 18:12

I will admit, though I we just talked about filler and I said I don't mind filler episodes For One Piece. I skip every single filler episode.

Jordan: 18:21

Well, yeah, you kind of have to. I mean, that's the cool thing. Now, though, it's like back when they were doing this stuff when we were growing up, they were like catching the manga releases, so you kind of had to do that. Now it's like they don't even start the anime until you know there's so many chapters that they you know they do 12 or 20 episode seasons and leave for a year. It's great, because you'll never catch it, like they don't have to play that game anymore.

Andrew: 18:48

Well, I mean, we already mentioned Berserk and Full Metal Alchemist, and both of them caught. Both of those pieces caught, you know, the studios off guard because Berserk, how long did they stop writing for?

Jordan: 19:01

dude, I mean that dude, would that dude would take breaks? He's not. He's not even the king of breaks, though the 100x100 guy, yeah, yeah, um, but he would take a lot of breaks too. But that's the thing. The art his art is was a guy passed rest, rest in peace, but guitar. But the art is just stunning, like every single page. It's like literally you could hang it as a painting, dick, yeah no, I berserk looks amazing, except it looks amazing yeah yeah, so well.

Jordan: 19:29

Yeah, in the anime, right. So then, how do you, yeah, how do you take the best, arguably the top part of any manga and then do the worst CGI anime? It's a slap in the face to every single person.

Andrew: 19:42

I think the worst thing for me I can still watch it because of the story. Right, I can still watch it. It's kind of like. It's a little bit of like hold your nose and watch it because you appreciate the story. So that's kind of what it was for me. But they slap you in the face at the end of that. Uh, second season, when they revert the anim, the, when they revert the animation to like the original style of animation and the yeah, and you're like you could have done this.

Andrew: 20:09

What the fuck assholes, why didn't? You do this that you spent money on cgi.

Jordan: 20:15

Well, dude I mean, when he gets berserker armor and it's gonna be, yeah, like what are we doing?

Andrew: 20:22

if the berserker armor had been the only thing that would have been cgi, that might have been acceptable no, literally every.

Jordan: 20:28

It looked like a playstation every frame was doing yeah, every frame.

Andrew: 20:31

Looked at it. It was a weird chunky mess that looked very strange and I still watched it, just because of the story.

Jordan: 20:38

Well, you know, do you hear about the fan anime of it? Do you hear about this? No, what? Yeah, so there's a fan studio that was reanimating that crap and there's a trailer you can look you can go look at it of Guts and it's stunning. I mean, it's amazing.

Andrew: 20:56

Dude, you're not supposed it's amazing for that.

Jordan: 20:58

Oh yeah, I'll get it. Well, I'll give it to you, but it's just gonna make you angry because it looks great. And then, uh, yeah, apparently I think they got sued and they had to stop and they raised they were raising all this money to do it and apparently everyone who was part of the team dipped and one guy was left just taking all these donations and it just yeah. But the trailer is awesome, so you'll check it out and be like, can we do this please? Like, like, just give me I mean bro mappa's doing everything else y'all can't fucking do resort. The guy died. Like, can you come in and do the right thing here and animate the rest of this? So I mean it would be a massive hit.

Andrew: 21:34

I mean there's no way, but that would kill it. Yeah, man, that stinks, dude, I I. If you have the link for that, though, send that to me. I want to at least look at, look at the artwork oh yeah, I'll send it over.

Jordan: 21:45

It was a huge. It blew up as a huge thing and it was supposed to be like a couple episodes, like they were animating and apparently I think they got threatened to get sued. I think that's what happened, which makes sense, kind of, and I think the whole studio just left. But one guy was like we're still animating, we need money, you know, just totally just collecting money, uh, but the, the trailer is really good it.

Jordan: 22:06

It's very weird that that series in particular, never it. I feel like it's one of the most dark and unique stories you could do and with the, with the art now, like that you could do, I don't. It's it's odd that they hasn't been read in like a really great way, because at this point I mean the story's still coming out because his assistant took over and he's going to finish it, and even though it's coming out once every couple months per chapter, there's so much freaking story between where the original one ended and you can just redo season two like nobody cares. It seems to suck. Just redo it, do the berserk armor the right way and just roll. I mean you can probably get like four or five seasons out right.

Andrew: 22:46

Um, yeah, I'd be I'd be excited to see it, for I who was that that was like universal studios, or say why I remember seeing like the universal studios level. I think it was what is going on with this.

Jordan: 22:58

Well, I think it was that berserk was was my dark fantasy inspiration, my shit for sure. So you know, the medieval time fall, it's all in medieval time. You know it's brutal, it's terrible monsters, it's definitely um, that story hint is really inspired by berserk. And then I would say it's inspired by claymore too, because claymore was really claymore was. Yeah, claymore was definitely kind of like a witcher vibe, like they're hunting monster.

Andrew: 23:25

Yeah, it's cool, it was sad though it was like I I don't know great about it. Yeah, it's brutal, you're right, it's. It's brutally, brutally sad. Um, you mentioned hunter x hunter, though a little bit ago. Have you seen the news on that?

Jordan: 23:40

so here's my thing with hunter. I love hunter, it's amazing. Love the show, love the love. The anime? I think they're I don't know if they're doing a reboot or if they're doing. I don't think it's a review. I think they're continuing from when the original one ended. From what I can see, there's two rumors.

Andrew: 23:55

Okay, tell me the room. So, from what I can see is there's two rumors, uh, and, granted, I'm pulling this from screen rant, so okay, we don't from Screen Rant. So OK, we don't know, right, yeah, so yeah, we don't. We don't know how accurate this is, but according to Screen Rant, there seems to be two rumors. There's a solid rumor of an anime reboot, but then I've also seen mention of them just continuing saying and he's basically said yeah, I'm pushing, pushing stuff out, we're we're trying to get back to it. We've gotten, we should have enough content now, um, but I, I think, according to screen rant, when it might be announced one way or the other, would be at the um, anime Japan, uh, which I guess is a pretty huge convention that I had no idea, which I guess is a pretty huge convention that I had no idea.

Jordan: 24:43

Oh, I know, would that be cool to go? Yeah, that'd be awesome, dude, you know you would get someone to follow you around. I don't know, they would be like hey.

Andrew: 24:52

Nobody really followed me around the last time I was in Tokyo.

Jordan: 24:54

You've been over there. I didn't even know that.

Andrew: 24:56

Yeah, no, I spent several weeks over there hanging out with my brother when he was stationed stationed over there. People really just kind of ignored me. I mean, they didn't ignore me, not to say impolite. Um, I could ask. Everybody was extremely polite. You could ask anybody a question anywhere and if they couldn't speak english, they'd find somebody to answer your question. Um, as long as you were polite, which I always was, um yeah, but this time you'd be dressed as an anime character.

Jordan: 25:23

This is what you're not understanding. I'm you're gonna dress as? Um. No, what's the guy from seven deadly sins? Immediately. Uh, no, no, hold on time out. What's the guy? The lion? Sin of pride, eskenor, you're dressing as eskenor. No, hey bro, you got the mustache.

Andrew: 25:39

You got the mustache the mustache doesn't count, that's like you, literally have.

Jordan: 25:45

Look, you just twirl it, go shirtless. Bro, you're in, you're in no incorrect.

Andrew: 25:51

No, if I'm gonna go as an anime character, I I don't know that eskenor would be my choice who would you pick?

Jordan: 25:57

come on um.

Andrew: 25:58

Yeah, I don't know I don't know, I don't't know.

Jordan: 26:01

Look bro, they're all based on me. Dark hair. I could be Roy Mustang. I could be a freak. I could be like multiple characters in Fullmetal Alchemist if I really wanted to. Yeah, greed, come on. They're all dark hair, it's easy.

Andrew: 26:13

Yeah, I don't know, dude, I've never really thought about who I could be, just because, again, like you said, I'm huge. So it doesn't really I can't walk in there and be Meliodas.

Jordan: 26:30

No, it can't be Meliodas, you could be From fairytale, you could be Guild Arts.

Andrew: 26:37

Yeah, I could be Guild Arts. I could probably pull that off. You could rock them.

Jordan: 26:44

Yeah, guild Arts would that. I could probably pull that off. You could rock them. Um, yeah, guild arts would work, which he's dope. I mean, he's just cool as shit right, yeah, absolutely yeah.

Andrew: 26:48

I mean, the only character I could be from solo loving, uh, solo leveling is the old president, bro.

Jordan: 26:53

No see no, the one dude the big guy from is he's from america is the big guy could be him are you talking about the guy with the wild red hair?

Andrew: 27:02

I think that's the guy. Yes, dude, are you talking about the guy with the wild red hair? I think that's the guy. Yes. Dude, it could be him the White Tiger Guild. Okay, the guy from the White Tiger Guild.

Jordan: 27:09

No, that's not the same guy who are you talking about oh? The big ass dude. He's Bill.

Andrew: 27:15

I know who you're talking about. You're talking about Thomas Andre.

Jordan: 27:18

Yes, dude, yes, 100%. Thomas Andre, yes, dude, yes, 100 which?

Andrew: 27:22

for those that, yeah, aren't reading or following the web comic or the uh epic light novels yeah, great character.

Jordan: 27:31

We won't say anything else about that no, no, just hawaiian shirt man or the tie, you gotta rock the tie, yeah, dude, you could kill him yeah, no, that would be great that would be great right that would, but you gotta wait till it comes out in the anime, because then people don't know. Yeah Right, they're like why are you some weird Hawaiian trooper? I don't know, I'm not, I don't have the swag of Sun Jin Woo or whatever. I can't do it. His voice is too deep.

Jordan: 28:02

I can't it ready, wait, I'm gonna go for it.

Andrew: 28:04

Hold on ready, all right. No, that's not my style. Like I can, uh, yeah, I. I have way too much of my voice. And you're right, absolutely right, thomas andre. That would be the best fit for me for anime character hasn't even been drawn yet.

Jordan: 28:20

Well, he will be. I'm sure I don't know if he'll be this season. Actually, I don't even know, I don't. Well, he will be, I'm sure. I don't know if he'll be this season.

Andrew: 28:26

Actually, I don't even know. I don't think so. It depends. They've changed a few things up storyline-wise, so it could be at the tail end of the season or it might not be until the next season. See, that's the problem, is I?

Jordan: 28:36

read it so long ago I can't remember the sequence.

Andrew: 28:50

Like I remember the big stuff.

Jordan: 28:50

Yeah, I'm assuming it's gonna. This season will be ending with the, the ant stuff, you know, the island stuff. Yeah, yeah, which would be awesome. Uh, bear bears there? I'm happy that'd be dope, but that I don't think, tom sandra is I think he's after yeah, he is absolutely.

Andrew: 28:57

I just finished rereading the light novels and, uh, it would be well after, well after the jeju island arc yeah, and I think what they're doing 12 episodes, right?

Jordan: 29:06

yeah, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, so it's gonna be a minute, yeah, I agree. Well, man, I mean hunter x hunter, yeah, before you finish yeah, we didn't get to go into it. Really. Hunter x hunter the reboot I don't know why they would reboot the anime to start over. That would be silly, because the last one was 2011. It's still pretty good. I mean, you just finished it, right? Yeah?

Andrew: 29:25

no, I'm not done yet. And screw you, dude bro, for getting me to watch an anime that is not complete.

Jordan: 29:32

It is complete, though it's not complete, dude it really kind of is, though it's not a complete storyline so look, man, I don't want to spoil it for you, but like the manga, it's not even like it follows different. I don't know. It's actually complete. When you finish it you'll be like okay, and then I'll, then I'll, then I'll tell you yeah, and then you'll be like okay. So in a way it is kind of complete, yes, but please finish, what are you waiting on?

Andrew: 29:58

finish the story, sir I got busy, I'm going to finish it. I'm in like I'm in the, I'm in the 60s, maybe in the 70s episode how many is it 130?

Jordan: 30:07

120, 130, something like that yeah, so you, you did, you get to. You can finish greed island right, yeah, I am.

Andrew: 30:15

I think I'm in the second episode after greed island, so I'm just great on was so good, dude.

Jordan: 30:20

So greed island yeah, that was my favorite art. And then the last, probably the last in the show. No, but like reboot, I don't know, would be cool, uh. But I think they're gonna do probably the continuation. I mean, that's the one that makes sense, but the guy always does the manga, then he quits for seven months.

Andrew: 30:38

Yeah, well, uh, I think we've probably covered everything we should cover for tonight for an origin episode.

Jordan: 30:46

Yeah, absolutely, let's do it.

Andrew: 30:54

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Jordan: 31:02

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