Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome to Realm Jumpers. I'm Andrew and this is my co-host, jordan.

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Hey everyone. We're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and anime, bringing you epic stories and unforgettable adventures.

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We'll be talking world building, unforgettable villains and everything that makes these genres legendary.

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So let's jump into the realm and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the Realm. All right, thanks for joining us again. Tonight we're going to discuss some different anime tropes the ones we love, the ones we hate, and maybe a bonus round thrown in as well. We'll dive right in after we cover some Realm rumors.

Speaker 1: 0:39

How you doing. Dude, I'm ready to roll, man, I'm, do you? What do you have for me this week? What realm rumors do you got?

Speaker 2: 0:47

so mine is gonna be about dragon ball daima, which is a new anime they made about dragon ball. Uh, it is not after super, it's actually before super started, I guess. So, and and which is super is weird too, because it takes place before the end of Dragon Ball Z actually. So this is now Dragon Ball Z stop Daima, stop Super and then back to Dragon Ball Z for the quote ending, which is insane, but and it's you know, it was made by the late great Akira Toriyama. This was his last thing he worked on before he passed. Rest in peace. Obviously, the man is a legend and the GOAT and it's a cool story. I've been watching it. I was watching it every week. It kind of fell off. I'm not a big fan of turning Goku into a kid, you know. Again, I don't really like that GT'sts, you know, spit on and stuff, because it's technically not canon, because the studios did it back in the day, wait, hold on gt's not canon.

Speaker 1: 1:50

Nope, it's not okay my knowledge of it's been so long since I've seen dragon ball. My knowledge of dragon ball is, you know, the hyperbolic chamber, 40, 48 million cells and, uh, the four episode, kamehameha yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I I feel you, man, I get it and it's just weird.

Speaker 2: 2:11

I like this because in a way, I don't know how to say, super ended and super was awesome, right, and the manga kept going. So there's some way, there's arcs that they could animate and super ended I think it might have been seven years ago which is crazy to say that. And we all just want more Super. And we're doing a daima about Goku being wish small. All the Dragon Ball casts wish small. They're in the Demon Realm. They're looking for the Dragon Balls in the Demon Realm to undo them being. Whatever the story is, whatever the big news, I have the big news. Another question though.

Speaker 1: 2:46

Oh, go ahead, go ahead, is it? They were made small, like the chibi mode, small where they're all small and cute, or like being a drone. Oh, no man they're chibi.

Speaker 2: 2:55

yeah, well, like, oh, when goku was 10, it's literally gt, it's literally another version of gt, and even to the point of and I kind of bailed because I just got tired of it. One cool thing Vegeta did go Super Saiyan 3. So that was cool. We've all assumed he could do it because he could go God mode and all other stuff later on. It was cool to see it. Kind of lame, he was a kid version, quote. But I'll take what I can get with Vegeta. He's my man.

Speaker 2: 3:22

And Goku ended up going Super Saiyan 4, which is the furry. Which awesome mode. I always loved it from GT because it looks really cool. And now it's quote canon, but he has pink fur instead of red and his hair is pink instead of black and he's a kid and he's not big. And, yeah, I'm not the biggest fan of it. I guess it's cool to say that that happened, but it doesn't make sense in context because when he fights Beerus later in Super he doesn't go for against Beerus. So what are we talking about? But hey, that's Dragon Ball and Cannon are kind of all over the place. Yeah, but the internet is happy to get a Cannon Super Saiyan 4, I guess.

Speaker 1: 4:00

Heck, yeah man.

Speaker 2: 4:02

What about you?

Speaker 1: 4:06

You got guys, yeah, yeah, man, what about you? You got one as well, right I do. This is kind of an update to the last week's story, or the week before recently, one of our, one of our recent realm rumors at the drama at crunchy roll, um I'd like to hear that yeah, we, we explained to you guys and you know we brought you the story about sean hoffman.

Speaker 1: 4:19

He was a software that uh was canned after filing an ada, which not a good look in 2025. Right, especially with this guy's story. Again, you know his mother is on. He found out in 2024, his mother's got terminal cancer and this man just comes down with the worst case of stress, you know, severe stress.

Speaker 2: 4:40

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 4:41

And as you would write, of course something's going wrong with my mom.

Speaker 1: 4:44

I'm going to stress the hell out too. So it's just not a good look, but anyway there's, there's an update to it. He has filed the complaint with the you know, with the unemployment, and, as I suspected, there most likely will be a full lawsuit after this. I don't see how he go with the lawsuit, how he go with the lawsuit. Um, he did post his, he did post the update via linkedin. So for anybody that wants to check that out, we will have the you know, the links to the article in in the show notes for the podcast. But there is.

Speaker 2: 5:13

I did see something where he was sent a letter by the execs or by someone and they were like threatening him not to letter yeah, and he's like what you know, yeah, so this is gonna get ugly.

Speaker 1: 5:24

I did see there was other people who came out about some work conditions as well, though Not just him, it's, and that's why I didn't want to go too deep into it because this thing, just like this, is the rabbit hole, of rabbit holes right now, you know, like we can dive into this. I bet we could spend two episodes talking about the issues going on. Two episodes talking about the issues going on crunchy roll right now and, with you know, some of the other studio conditions that are being seen across the world or not across the world, across the, you know the industry anime industry.

Speaker 1: 5:53

Um, we, we could spend several episodes talking about that. That's why I didn't want to go like too too much into that. But hey, you know, we bring it to light. We'll provide you with the article links for you to dive into the rabbit hole if you so choose yeah, let's talk about fun stuff.

Speaker 2: 6:07

Yeah, right, that's what we're here for, absolutely here to talk about the shit that brings us joy, absolutely so you. You go first on this one man that you came up with the idea.

Speaker 1: 6:16

I think you deserve the uh, the top spot there I don't know, I don't know about the top spot man, but okay, so we are talking about anime tropes that we love and hate this week. So you know, the first one that I that I got to talk about, it's just you have to love it. Well, I guess you don't have to, but I have to, and a lot of people apparently do love it is the. You know it's a plot trope, it's the training, or who doesn't love a good training arc? Tell me you didn't watch Rocky, and just you know, yes, that's not anime. But tell me you don't watch a scene, like you know, rocky getting his training on and you're like, yes, I'm pumped up, let's go.

Speaker 1: 6:53

Montage music let's do it Right, yeah, montage music, let's do it, and really, that's all you need to say about a training arc. I feel like that that plot trope works well in so many different animes?

Speaker 1: 7:08

oh yeah, because you have to have it you have to have it for certain types of series. But you know, specifically, like, let's talk about what it sets up, what it does right for the show. It gives meaning to that next big battle, right. So when gone, like hunter, hunter, uh, when gone and kilua go to the heavens arena, you know, and they start getting into that, they quickly realize there's a. There's a uh, not a penalty gap, there's a a skill gap. Right, when they get to that top floor, like there's a major skill gap, they can't even, they can't even go past the hallway. You know, because of that skill gap and that's because they're not nin users. And so you know you've got the training art and you know they weren't just experts right from jump street. The teacher, you know he. You know he initially evaluated him. He said you know he's, I remember he's thinking in his head he's like man, these kids have got skill but they're not trained, they don't have that raw, they just don't know what the hell they're doing with it.

Speaker 2: 8:04

They're kind of just like winging it and they don't have steps that they do Exactly.

Speaker 1: 8:09

They've got the talent, but the skill's not there. So the training arc builds up for that payoff at that next big battle, which is what happens for Gon. You see him go through the next couple of battles and that culminates with that huge fight with Hisuka. And it doesn't matter that he loses the fight. The point is, the respect is there right, which is what Gon was looking for from the beginning.

Speaker 2: 8:32

Oh yeah, he got that, respect yeah he got the respect.

Speaker 1: 8:35

It wasn't a win or lose thing for him. I don't think Gon cared whether he won or he lost. I'm pretty sure he knew he was going to lose. He and it can also be used to to develop the characters emotionally, like in this instance it was used to develop Gon and Killua physically or maybe a little bit mentally.

Speaker 2: 8:57

But yeah, definitely mentally too Well at least with Yuji, right you? That's one of your examples you're telling me about it's mental.

Speaker 1: 9:05

That would be more that would be more emotional. And then a little bit of the mental right, because season one JJK right after he gets brought in by Gojo, we've already established that he has no idea how to control his emotions, and that's why Homeboy is able to take him over and basically run away with him so easily, easily and uh, you know. So you've got that training arc there and it's of course it's an unconventional training arc. He's got a hilarious. Gotta watch a bunch of stupid movies and I think he has to stay awake too right like yeah, and I swear titanic's in there.

Speaker 2: 9:39

I think like saving private ryan or something like we know the movie, like they hint at it and you're just like he's. You can't get emotional. You gotta watch it, right? I've never seen that type of training before. So, right, super funny, yeah, but actually it works. I mean it does.

Speaker 1: 9:54

It's still a training arc and it works and you know, for again, for that, you know, for that specific training arc, for that specific character who's a little bit mental but also more, you know, emotional training. But it's still a training arc. It still sets up for the next big thing, you know. It sets up what has to overcome, what he's got to do for that next series of battles, for the next things he needs to be able to do to live, or they're going to kill him.

Speaker 2: 10:19

Literally he's done Gojo's the only reason they haven't done it? They want to do it, but they're scared of King Gojo there. So, yeah, yeah for sure. Well, you know, it's funny because your training arc I mean it literally what nine out of ten times leads kind of right into a tournament arc, usually usually right after, right, shortly after and that's one of my favorite love ones is those tournament arcs. Man, they are just so fun, you know it.

Speaker 2: 10:44

You watch the anime. Likely you're watching it for fights most of the time, and when they pull off a torment arc in a cool way or a new way or just, you know, an interesting way or whatever it, um, it's, it's really just, it really hooks you in. I mean, there's so many examples of it. Of course, there was definitely one in jutsu kaisen. Uh, if you remember, it was uh, their, their, uh, school versus the other. You know, like all that. You know there were different classes of super cool, great fight scenes. Um, hunter x hunter, you said it, heavens gate arena, that's kind of a tournament thing as you are literally going through fights to level, you know, to get to the next level, uh, some big ones, you know, obviously, fairy tale, the grand magic games, epic, epic the epic before.

Speaker 1: 11:29

The four dragon. You know the four dragon duke's fight just awesome, and I don't even know why they call it. Four dragon slayers fight.

Speaker 2: 11:35

That was nazi versus the other two yeah, yeah, I was in it for 30 seconds.

Speaker 1: 11:39

Yeah, guys stop which I still love him. He's so cool. Good, joseph, he pushed him into a mining cart, just shoved him off down the railroad and then what was it? Two episodes later, after all the fights are over. He's like where you been, you big idiot? He's like do you not remember what you did to me? What you did?

Speaker 2: 11:55

yeah I love. He said he's that show is great. I don't care anyone says, uh, you got the here. You know I'm a big my hero fan. I know you haven't started it yet. I'm sure soon at some point you will. But they do have a ua um sports festival, which is literally, uh, it's a, it's a tournament and there's different games and then there's fights, obviously. So that's really cool and it gauges the growth of the characters and it's one verse ones. You know the whole thing. So that's always, you know, super fun. And then, um, you know the tuning exams in nardo. I mean, it's kind of one of the best examples. You know it's when shit hit the fan or stuff hit the fan.

Speaker 1: 12:29

I should say, you know, and really just I gotta kick it off I gotta say, though everybody loves, I'm gonna have a slightly different take here on the tuning exams than every everybody else probably everybody loves right. When you get to the one on one v one battles and rockley drops them weights and it just becomes like just boom. You know you get this major epic thing going that was epic, though, dude, that was epic.

Speaker 1: 12:53

But I gotta back it up. I'm sorry the written test for me cracked me up. That was the best. That was the best arc. That was the best mini arc in the tournament arc because it just like the whole tuning exam, that written exam, naruto's just over there sweating bullets right and then they're cheating everyone's cheating everybody.

Speaker 1: 13:14

Yeah, that's the point, everybody's, except for sakura. She's home dude wins and he hasn't. Oh, I mean not wins home dude passes, and he didn't even write a damn answer on his page it's great dude, but that's the thing, it's the whole, you know.

Speaker 2: 13:31

And then it the battle part, and then in the woods and that's the whole roachy bar thing, like great it may be, one of, it's probably it is actually probably one of the best tournament slash type things, um, and then of course, with the roachy bar, with the fourth of you know he didn't even want to write that.

Speaker 1: 13:47

Really, he didn't even want to write it. He didn't want to write a tournament.

Speaker 2: 13:51

And they were like you got to do it. They kind of pushed him into it. Well, it was probably one of you know, in the original Naruto it's probably one of the most pivotal, you know story arcs?

Speaker 2: 14:04

Yeah, I agree, that's great. Well, he should thank them for that one, right? Sorry, man should thank them for that one, right, because, sorry, I don't know. No, you're good, I, I love it when you do that because it makes it interesting. And the last one and this is another series that I think it just got canceled, I don't know, I never finished it the the story of the manga dead man wonderland. Do you ever watch that? Do you remember that one? No, I don't.

Speaker 2: 14:25

It's, uh, people put it like they're in a prison and they have to fight for the survival. It's like very gladiator, modern day stuff. It's a dope series. Uh, they can use blood as a weapon, which is pretty cool. Like, okay, there's, there's some cool stuff in it. Um, and theirs was called the corpse carnival. It was literally a fight to the death, while, uh, hell, yeah, people would like bet. Yeah, super cool series. Um, I don't remember. It definitely didn't finish in one season, but I feel like they need to finish it because it was really, really cool. So, yeah, for me, man, tournament arcs. I'm a sucker for it, dude for sure. What about you?

Speaker 1: 15:01

What's your next one. I do like a good tournament arc, but the next one for me would have to be a character archetype, so I got to go. One for me would have to be a character archetype, so I gotta go. And this is probably my all-time favorite anime trope period the slacker sensei. Ding, ding, ding, heck. Yeah, you know, jiraiya, captain yami gojo, you got these.

Speaker 1: 15:23

I, I love a slacker sensei, right, and I don't, I don't know man um kakashi, right, he's pretty slacker, he's always reading yeah, not as slacker as the rest of those guys but not as dry though, right yeah yeah, um, yeah, I don't know, they're all, it's just, they're all. There's always going to be these things that are that line up for every single one, right, they're all going to be extremely powerful, obviously, um, but they don't act like your traditional mentor, you know, they're not're not. They're not like oh God, what's his name? Rock Lee's teacher, guy Guy. They're not like guy Right.

Speaker 1: 15:56

They're not these super serious training people, you know, I mean they're serious about training, but they're just, they don't take themselves seriously. They don't take anything seriously until it's time for the fight. Right, they're, they're reckless, they're reckless. They're drunk, passed out somewhere. Captain Yami, right, yeah, sitting on the toilet Smoking. Yeah, reading your pervert magazine. Whatever you're doing it doesn't matter, they're the absolute most worst slackers in the world. Until the fight starts. And then they drop in and just all hell breaks loose and that's the end.

Speaker 2: 16:29

Yami taking a drag on a cigarette, and then they drop in and just all hell breaks loose and that's yeah, I'm taking a drag on a cigarette and just fighting. I'm gonna kill you, yes. And then he's mad serious and he's strong.

Speaker 1: 16:38

Is anything, yeah, yeah right and you know again, like it's just, I don't know man, I just I love that trope. They, they're definitely the tough love, right, they're not the hold your hand and, you know, walk you through the they're, they're the tough love. Mentors, like jiraiya leaving naruto in the middle of the woods while he goes and I you know, probably a strip club or whatever uh, I think he's spying on hot baths is what he liked to do, okay, yeah, so he said that was his go-to.

Speaker 2: 17:04

He leaves.

Speaker 1: 17:05

He leaves naruto in the woods to learn the russ and gun. You know, it's just that's. That's the way they all are. Yami is like surpass your limits but then doesn't tell you how to do it right he's like how I don't know, like you don't even have magic.

Speaker 2: 17:18

What are you talking about? Learn to see chi kid he was, he's the. He's the goat man. He's too funny, and the fact that he smokes it's just. I'm gonna get him as a figure here as soon as I find one.

Speaker 1: 17:29

Yeah, he's going up there because he's he's right the the one thing that is not always the same with all of them is they are not always a pervert right like jiraiya pervert kakashi, halfway perverted oh, he's reading those books, boy, you never know it, but he's reading those books but then you got like gojo, and I mean gojo maybe I guess a little bit, but then you've got like captain yami not at all, like, that's not in his like no, but he's definitely a drunk, he's got, he's drinking a lot and a bad gambler.

Speaker 1: 17:55

Terrible at it, yeah but yeah, I I love the slacker sensei. Uh, that is my absolute favorite favorite anime trope um ever.

Speaker 2: 18:04

Like you, give me a good slacker sensei and I'm just gonna watch it and you know that's funny with gojo is he's so strong, like he's so powerful that you know he's almost like a nuclear deterrent, like it. When you I, I read the whole series. So when you read it and you want when the series comes out again, you see they have to go to their creator, has to go to creative ways to kind of like how do we like do a a stake story with gojo? Because he's so strong that that he could just candle anything pretty much. So it's cool to length something. They figure out how to do it. It'll be fun for sure to watch it. But yeah, slacker and Overpowered Sensei, I'm all in. Oh, now we're on the hate. This is going to be good. This is going to be a good one. Man, let me do mine, because you got some good ones in here.

Speaker 2: 18:48

I think one of yours is very interesting for me. I'll jump in on that one when you get to it. So for me, and it's I think it's just an age thing too Fan service, you know it's just, sometimes it's over the top and it gets to the point where a little is okay. You know it's like whatever, but sometimes it's just too much and you're kind of just like you feel weird about it, just because technically they're usually like teens, they're not usually adults half the time, and you're just like, okay, do we need to do that? It doesn't really bring much to the story, um, and most of the time it's never really made me drop a series one. The only one that's kind of like I'm probably gonna still watch it because the characters are cool, but it gets to the point where it makes me not want to watch it is fire force. Yeah, it's just. I've heard that it's.

Speaker 1: 19:37

it's there's a girl that her clothes fall off like and it's not like gray right in the middle of a serious scene, doesn't?

Speaker 2: 19:45

it, yeah, like she'll just come in the room and like trip, and then like, somehow her shirt comes off and it's like yeah, it's like a gag, but like we're fairytale with gray, it's funny.

Speaker 2: 19:54

They're like yo put a shirt on, you know it's like. It's not like that, it's like it's just it. It has taken you out of scenes too, so it it is to the point where you're just like you roll your eyes at it. But it gets to a point where some series go too far on that stuff and it seems to be like one of the main focuses of the show and at that point you're like come on, like what are we?

Speaker 1: 20:16

doing so. I think the only show I've 100% walked away from just because of the amount of fan service eki, whatever you want to call it would be that Redo a Healer. That was just grossly terrible, terrible.

Speaker 2: 20:30

Honestly, I don't even think it would be called fan service. That sounds like a whole other genre going on Right.

Speaker 1: 20:35

But for me, I kind of just I ignore most of it, I guess, because as far as Hollywood's concerned and I know anime isn't Hollywood, but it's still a production they're trying to make- out. Right, it's a production and sex sells. Sex sells everywhere.

Speaker 2: 20:50

Of course.

Speaker 1: 20:51

So at this point, like I just kind of get your blinders on and if it doesn't take me out of the story then I don't care too much, I guess.

Speaker 2: 21:01

If it gets weird, that different.

Speaker 1: 21:02

But yeah like, yeah, redo a healer is weird and that, just uh, I'm not about that, but otherwise it's just kind of like if it doesn't take me out of the story yeah, it's harmless, doesn't matter. You know it's, it doesn't matter, but I agree when you do, you're like come on, come on.

Speaker 2: 21:16

If it's every episode like it shouldn't be.

Speaker 1: 21:19

There's a lot of shows, shows where it's pretty much the main focus of the show. Mm hmm.

Speaker 2: 21:23

Yeah, so what do you got for hate? I know you're gonna have some interesting ones, I hate a tragic backstory.

Speaker 1: 21:30

That's so interesting because that's what makes the character no, no, it doesn't OK.

Speaker 2: 21:34

It's so interesting.

Speaker 1: 21:36

I am going to catch all kinds of hell for this Naruto beat. Catch all kinds of hell for this naruto beat the tragic story to death with sasuke, that that went on way too long. Sasuke's oh what was me? Story went on way too long. I get that. The point of the end of it was you know everything that went down with itachi and just all of that. I understand what I'm saying is that it went on for so long that it made me hate the tragic backstory.

Speaker 2: 22:02

But I cannot everywhere You're like I'm done. I mean I had a tragic backstory.

Speaker 1: 22:13

I was everywhere like, and it almost to the point where when failure frame came out, I started watching it. And then they go into a little bit of, they start telling, talking about his tragic backstory. You know, I don't know, did you watch failure frame? Ok, I read the light novels and when it first jumped into like talking about he was about to go evil mode just because of the way he was being treated, I was like, oh, here we go, another tragic backstory I'm out.

Speaker 1: 22:32

They immediately shifted focus right, like yes, he is focused on revenge, but it's not the Sasuke level revenge, it's just revenge alongside other things and it happens to be the right thing anyways. So failure frame kind of did it right. But otherwise, like and don't get me wrong, I love naruto, I love sasuke. I kind of skip when I rewatch. I do skip a lot of episodes that talk about sasuke's crap, because I just don't yeah, you're like, you're like.

Speaker 2: 23:01

Okay, we get it, let's move on.

Speaker 2: 23:02

Please, like I guess you watched your brother kill everybody yeah, it's horrible and like I get all that and I feel that so obviously. But it does get to a point where I think that I think his character was mishandled. Like at the end of it it just you know, I know we spoke about this before it you guys team up after all these years and you defeat the alien god thingy or whatever, you know whatever. And then it's like cool, we're exhausted, we've been fighting for 10 days, is what it feels like. And he's like, yeah, so I'm gonna kill all the tailed beasts now and I'm gonna take over and I'm gonna kill you.

Speaker 2: 23:37

And it just seems like there there was growth up to that point, because I remember being like cool and I get that they had to show them fight like full-on. I get it like everyone needed to see that. I just don't think they handled it right, man. I think it should have been like I want to be hokage, which is fine. We don't agree with it. Let's fight for that title, maybe. But I remember even their fight. He was fighting to kill and naruto wasn't, so they weren't fighting on equal terms because he was not trying to kill him right, you know.

Speaker 1: 24:07

So I don't think naruto was never trying to fight to kill maybe like against sasuke against.

Speaker 2: 24:13

Oh yeah, with him. No, he was fighting to wake him up and save him, which he ended up doing. But I just feel like I remember like watching that and reading it and just being like what was the point of? Did you not grow at all? Are you serious? I was just mad.

Speaker 1: 24:27

So I I kind of understand his character of being like dude, grow up, come on man so the next one that I am starting to hate I don't fully hate it, yet, I'm not all the way there is the op mc. I am getting sick of just the overpowered main character that comes in, blasts everything, doesn't sweat at all and it just becomes this horrific power fantasy thing that, and usually included with fan service that I just don't care about. You you know, solo leveling does it right and there are a few other shows that. Do you know this overpowered power fantasy?

Speaker 2: 25:08

You got to walk it the right way.

Speaker 1: 25:09

You got to walk a fine line. One of the things that I think solo leveling does really well is they don't bring a bunch of fan service into it. I think it's the combination of those two things that really makes me hate it. Um, like misfit a demon king academy right.

Speaker 2: 25:27

I the first couple of episodes were good I bailed on it, dude.

Speaker 1: 25:29

I used to like it too the first couple episodes were good, but then it's just like aha snub, you're dead, and that was boring. What was the?

Speaker 2: 25:37

there's no overlords like that. There's no, there's no state. See, I felt like overlord, did it a little bit better right there they did it better. No, they did it not as bad as that, but it gets to the point where I walked away I I think maybe four to ten episodes, somewhere between four and ten episodes.

Speaker 1: 25:53

So that's all I've seen of overlord. I kept meaning to get back to it. I never did, and then at that I just hit a point where I was like, nah, I'm just not gonna. But I for the episodes I did watch. I felt like overlord did it better, like slightly closer to like to the solo leveling side where, no, they did good um, really, it's like the seasons after one one's fine, um, you kind of it's, and it's not even that.

Speaker 2: 26:14

I'm not saying that, that for me it's not the overpowered thing, I don't care, but it's the like it's just kind of boring. You're getting bored, um, and I'm, and you're not really like, hey, what are you really trying to do? Are you gonna take the world over? Because if you're doing that, let's watch that, but you're just like doing other stuff. So I don't know, maybe it does get really good. I've been watching it, um, and yeah, I'm just kind of bored of that series specifically, I will say I just finished today eminence and shadow.

Speaker 2: 26:39

He is over overpowered, but it's like comedy, so it's funny yeah and I was kind of telling a little bit about some of the stuff and it's just, it's hilarious and for him he is overpowered. That's the thing. He's strong and he can just kind of do whatever, but like he purposely plays the background character for a while because he wants to be weak and like, just for like, whatever reason that he's doing all that. So it's it's, it's more fun and tongue-in-cheek stuff for that, um, which is just a funny show. But I think you're right. Yeah, you gotta walk that line, man, you gotta. You gotta do it right. You can't just be like I'm overpower, I can do whatever I want, and then it gets boring so I've only watched one episode of imminence and shadow self, and it hooked me it hooked me and I will tell you why because it's the stupidest reason ever, but I'm going to watch it just because of this one reason.

Speaker 1: 27:28

They get part way through the first episode and homeboy starts playing beethoven's moonlight sonata on the freaking on the piano and I'm like, oh, this boy's insane I think I need to watch this yeah, he so yeah, I will finish it Like he literally spends the most of the first season playing background character number whatever is what he calls it and like all these things are going on and he's can literally end everything in a second because he really is as Lord Shadow or whatever and he's just like he just doesn't do it and it just gets out of control and he's just like watching.

Speaker 2: 28:02

And then he has this troop of it's actually funny because he has a harem and he doesn't care about any of that and they all are in love with him and will do everything he says and he doesn't care. He, you know, you're all means to my play end whatever I'm doing, whatever this thing's going on, and it's like it's the, you know, they worship him like he's a god and he doesn't. He literally doesn't care like he's, just like I'm trying to be a background character great, here they're getting in my way like he actively tries to kind of thwart them in their plans which they think are his.

Speaker 2: 28:32

But it's just. It's ridiculous, but it is fun. It is a fun show.

Speaker 1: 28:36

You probably would laugh for sure I think I will. I dude, I'm telling you I'm going to finish. I've got a lot on my e-watch yeah, you do that's.

Speaker 2: 28:43

I keep giving you more.

Speaker 1: 28:45

You do keep getting. That's fine. My to be read list is bigger, so yeah, yeah, true, true so we got a bonus round, or what are we gonna? Are we gonna dive into this bonus?

Speaker 2: 28:54

yeah, so I'll you. You put in here, uh, glasses, the push-up glasses, dude or guy or girl, which absolutely both wearing them. So you have to do it. Yeah, um, you have some good ones in here, you, you gotta, and yours are good. I mean, you got the shady version kabuto and in naruto, right, like he's a snake character. He's what is he plotting? He's always doing something, uh that you have. You got claw, uh claws there in blackver, which takes off way too serious.

Speaker 1: 29:26

You know it's hilarious Dude he does, but then he ends up being comedic relief and that's what I love about Glass's push guy. You're getting the one of the two things right, oh, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 29:35

And then I threw in my third one, father Alexander Anderson from Helsing Ultimate, who's a psychotic zealot, catholic vampire hunter, irish vampire hunter, that his glasses glow, glow and he's always pushing them and he's got swords and he's just, he's a maniac, he's just an absolute psychopath.

Speaker 1: 29:51

Yeah, I mean, there are other good ones, obviously, but I don't know. Klaus from Black Clover does it really well for the, for the not the insane part. He's. He's the other one. He's the one that takes himself too seriously and then ends up giving the comedic. He brings the show and he does it's great sir spectacles. I mean, that's what asta calls him, that's great, and he answers to it. It's freaking amazing dude it's great.

Speaker 2: 30:14

He gives me vibes. Oh yeah, you haven't seen um. You haven't seen my hero, but there's a character with glasses. He's the class rep. They're very similar of like takes himself way too seriously. I'm doing it this way, blah, blah that they are literally mirrored characters. When you watch, you're gonna be like that's class, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, all right, dude, so do the hot takes this week's hot take.

Speaker 1: 30:36

Brother, what anime got you hooked on the medium?

Speaker 2: 30:39

so it's kind of weird for us man, because our gen we had to watch tsunami, you know like whatever was on cartoon network back in the day. So you know, obviously I'm gonna have to say dragon ball, because that's the first anime I've seen. You know that was action and fighting and goku died and it was you know sayings and this and that and you know power. So that's definitely the one that started me on the whole. Oh, this, this is really good. And then, of course, when you watch an American cartoon, you're like huh.

Speaker 2: 31:09

Yeah, yeah, nothing like nowhere near as serious.

Speaker 1: 31:12

Yeah, so for me it will be Full Metal Alchemist, not Brotherhood. I do love Brotherhood, but the original series is kind of what brought me back to him. Of course, as you said, we watched Dragon Ball as a kid. I got busy with life, I walked away, you know, I did a whole bunch of stuff. I I didn't really even watch a lot of tv at all period, um, for quite a while. And you know, then I started watching some stuff with a buddy and then I was like, okay, well, what else can I watch? And he was like, well, check out full metal alchemist. It was on netflix at the time, so I did and I freaking loved it, um, and I just, yeah, so that got me hooked and I don't know if I had to come back to it without without full metal alchemist, because I was after that, you know.

Speaker 1: 31:52

Just so, on the search for the next series, it's going to impact you like that and yeah well, imagine starting.

Speaker 2: 31:59

Imagine your first series is so leveling. Good luck, because you're starting up here and trying to like find all these other ones.

Speaker 1: 32:06

But it doesn't have the same emotional impact, right? No, I mean, you might feel that way about the action. You're like man. Am I ever going to find anything that brings the action, like solo leveling?

Speaker 2: 32:15

Yeah, yeah, probably not. In a year or two there'll be something you know, it's definitely breaking a lot of action.

Speaker 1: 32:25

For a lot of action, like for sure stuff right now. For sure right, but like that emotional impact, full metal alchemist does it. There are other shows that do it, but that was the one that did it for me, right that was the one that made me said let me find something else that hits this hard dude.

Speaker 2: 32:34

There's several, several standout months in full metal that I will never forget and literally will make me like, oh my god, like edge of my seat or get emotional or whatever. I mean, obviously we talked about it and already one of them. You know the sad stuff but I think honestly, the most like badass, emotionally and hopeful part of seeing in the whole show is when the you see the doors and Edwardward goes there and he sees alphonse's body, yeah, and he's all malnourished and barely survives and he's like I'm gonna dude, it was crazy. And then he's like I'm gonna bring you back. And they drag him back in the door, the hands come out and then he pushes the damn door open again and he's like I'm gonna be back. Amazing, it's one of the best things I agree.

Speaker 1: 33:24

It's for sure every arc has got a heavy hitting moment.

Speaker 2: 33:28

You know what I mean, uh, yeah, to me I think, yeah it's, it's masterpiece. I mean it's definitely a goaded show, emotional for sure. Yeah, yeah, I'm with you on that what uh all right.

Speaker 1: 33:38

What topic?

Speaker 2: 33:38

are we talking about next week looks like we're doing the evolution of superhero fantasy and uh, anime overlap in that, uh in that genre.

Speaker 1: 33:46

So that'll be hell yeah well, you're gonna have to bring the superhero knowledge. Just because I gave up after marvel, did you know doing all things?

Speaker 2: 33:54

there you go, got some hero stuff behind me. We're good you know, wolverine's the only one I like anymore like it's, just it's wolverine and then everything else is like I'm still a big Spider-Man fan up there, he's still cool. Yeah, the Spider-Man.

Speaker 1: 34:07

I gotcha Well. See you guys next week. Enjoy later. Thanks for jumping into the realm with us today. Be sure to follow realm jumpers wherever you get your podcasts and don't forget to share your thoughts, theories and favorite moments with us. Stay.

Speaker 2: 34:20

Epic and keep exploring the worlds you love. Leave us a review on your podcast platform and, if you're stuck on what to say, let us know what your favorite anime is. See you in the next round, thank you.