Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome to Realm Jumpers. I'm Andrew and this is my co-host, jordan.

Speaker 2: 0:09

Hey everyone. We're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and anime, bringing you epic stories and unforgettable adventures.

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We'll be talking world building, unforgettable villains and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the Realm and everything that makes these genres legendary.

Speaker 1: 0:23

So, let's jump into the realm. We're just past the halfway point of the spring anime season and it's time to check the pulse. Which shows are thriving, which ones are falling flat and which got us off guard? From pyro-powered brawls in Fire Force to rooftop beatdowns in Windbreaker, we're digging into what's working and what's not, as the season hits its cruising speed. This week we're talking Fire Force, mha, vigilantes, windbreaker and the beginning after the end. Let's get into it.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Hey man, how you doing Dude.

Speaker 1: 0:58

I'm pretty excited to talk about this one, because some of the shows have been good, and even the ones that are bad I it'll be an exciting conversation. I don't know, is exciting the right word? It'll be a good conversation it'll be a, a disappointing.

Speaker 2: 1:12

Uh, well, we kind of knew one of them was gonna kind of, you know, fall asleep and fall, just just go off the deep end, although I still like it, I just it's just. Oh man, anyway, let's not start with that one.

Speaker 1: 1:25

Well, I was gonna say I already know which one you're talking about, so we'll get into that first. Yeah, all right fine you want to kick us off with vigilantes?

Speaker 2: 1:33

yes, so vigilantes, uh, I'm loving it so far. I did read the manga so I know where the story's going. Uh, it's very fun to see this version of my hero where they're not sanctioned, um, and they're. He's, you know, the main guys and adults. That's kind of cool. Usually there's, you know, 13, 14 year olds. So he's in college, he's doing his thing. Uh, my hero looms a large in the series. Right, I know he does, uh, but it is pretty cool to see the breakdown of like hero, villain and then the vigilante thing. And I'm sorry, but knuckle duster is just a gangster. He'd just be throwing hands at people, dude, no powers, knocking people out.

Speaker 1: 2:12

I love it, it's hilarious uh, well, the big thing for me, right. So I'm just caught up or I'm not caught up in, you know, the main, the main, the main show for my hero. Like I kind of did a speed run and I'm in season four now. Um, I mostly just skipped the filler episodes, but there were a few episodes like I kind of fast forwarded through some of the arcs, uh, just to get like the main story, so that way I'd know what the hell was going on. But one thing that I definitely saw was like they talk about it several times. You know the heroes doing unsanctioned things, like the kids are getting in trouble, like deku, and you know shoto they got in trouble a couple of times for doing unsanctioned hero work.

Speaker 1: 2:57

So that's a big deal, right like how it's a huge deal oh yeah, yeah so how I I don't know how that's gonna affect the overall vigilantes rest of the show. Like I'd imagine there's going to be, like somebody is going to drop the hammer on him at some point, right.

Speaker 2: 3:12

Well, and that's kind of. There's a scene in like early episodes where they run into a racer head and he thinks they're villains and he's just trying to beat that ass. And then he's like, oh, you're kind of like off the books. He's like, cool, all right, we'll just like like don't get out of control or I'm going to have to come back, type thing. But the thing is right is that the heroes aren't coming to this part of town. That's the problem.

Speaker 2: 3:35

And these dudes are going on rampages. These guys like they're doing damage and like could hurt people. So someone really does need to like kind of be there. And you know it's like they're not really there. It kind of seems like it's a very small town or part of the city where no one's really at.

Speaker 2: 3:51

As far as big names, you know, no, all Might, no, you know any of the big guys. And you know these dudes are taking this drug trigger and it's literally like times 10 in their powers and they're just going on rampages trigger. And it's literally like times 10 in their powers and they're just going on rampages. And you know, by the time the other dudes show up like someone's gonna get killed or hurt. So it's, it's a cool. I like that. They're kind of like touching upon what is the society. Look at this type of stuff, because the heroes, yeah, there's a lot of them, but they're not endless and they're not just on every corner, you know. So it's cool to kind of see that version of what's going like playing out, and it's cool it's a prequel too, so there are some stuff that hints at like later, you know, stuff in the story so is it meeting your expectations?

Speaker 1: 4:37

because I, I mean I had no expectations coming into it, so it's just yeah, for me, no, it's it's super fun.

Speaker 2: 4:43

Um, I like, as I told you, slide and glide baby. Yeah, it's a cool little power, but uh, he definitely starts to master it, but I it is gonna get pretty serious as it goes on. I mean it was cool to see um the class rep's older brother as a hero. That was dope, like you know.

Speaker 1: 5:02

It's cool to see that oh yeah, um god, what's his name?

Speaker 2: 5:05

I can't remember his name now tenya I think the young one's tenya, but the older one, yeah, ingenium, that's ingenium, yeah, which was dope like that was cool to see him, um, and I mean it is what we're gonna talk about, because it's an episode, I mean early stain, what, and he's just murking people, dude, just straight up killing everybody. And he, the more like psychotic part of him I guess, before he got his ideology really ingrained, he was just like straight murder and he was, he was, he was kind of like not there yet, and then he ended up getting to his ideology about hero, you know, the hero thing. It's pretty cool, it's pretty interesting to watch that part, for sure yeah, I think it'll, I think it'll finish hard.

Speaker 1: 5:48

Is this going to be like a one and done thing again?

Speaker 2: 5:50

because I have probably not probably two seasons, two seasons kind of yeah yeah, because it's not a super long series.

Speaker 2: 5:58

I mean, I think it was like one of the monthly ones that would come out once a month, so there's not too many chapters, but there is a, there is a story and it is going somewhere and it does tie into the other series and stuff a lot. So and there's even a whole arc of the past with um eraser head midnight and like some of the main pro heroes now, when they were like, uh, you know about to graduate, type stuff. There's a little arc in between this whole thing that ties everything together in a really good way. So it probably two seasons I would think we'll probably get. If they're 20 episodes, maybe each, we'll probably get there. So it'll be fun for sure well, I've been enjoying it.

Speaker 1: 6:36

So I mean, as long as it stays on the same track, it's going on now I think, yeah, it just gets better, pretty much.

Speaker 2: 6:42

so if you like it now're going to like it even more as it gets, because the stakes just go bigger and bigger as it goes on. Yep, oh, my, my, my favorites coming up next. Man, my, my fight in anime.

Speaker 1: 6:54

Yeah, let's jump in the windbreaker dude. So I first take on windbreaker. I think windbreaker Is the type of show that needs to drop all at once and not week by week. Right here's why because the action scenes are amazing. There's no doubt about that. The action. They're so good, dude my action just kicks ass it kicks, it just kicks total ass. But the in-between context episodes where they're filling in. You know the relationship stuff for and, like you, know just how these teenagers are trying to get on in life.

Speaker 2: 7:36

And build a family of yeah with their friends.

Speaker 1: 7:38

It makes it slow enough that you're like dude one episode. You're like why did we just have three episodes with no fighting?

Speaker 2: 7:48

see and we spoke about that off air I'm like, look, I'm all for building the relationships outside of just the fighting. But we all know why we're here and when the every fight scene is freaking good, like it's not, like none of them are not, they're dope and they're just awesome. So then when you're like, okay, we've had two, three episodes, are we gonna get some hand thrown? You know what I mean? Like you know it wouldn't even matter, it would just be like total Okay, cool, whatever. But when it's weekly, you're like three, we were going on a month here Can we see some elbows and knees hitting some dudes in the in the face.

Speaker 1: 8:22

That's why I'm saying, dude I, I, windbreaker should be the type of show that drops all, all episodes at one time, that way it doesn't piss you off. You know, um, because I watched. So I watched season one of windbreaker after it had fully aired and fan freaking tastic um, but the few episodes where they didn't have fighting it didn't bother me because I was like I'm gonna watch this all in one night anyways. So you, you know, like I don't mind these extra episodes where they're contextualizing. You know why these guys are the way they are. But again, you know, like, when the fandom is showing up for the fights, that kind of makes it a hard argument for, like, what are you guys doing? You got to have fights every episode or drop all the episodes every.

Speaker 2: 9:15

We want to see an elbow at least getting someone's chin, like every episode, but it is when you gotta wait three weeks for a, for a.

Speaker 2: 9:23

You know an elbow drop, or you know soccer gotta fly off the rails and punch somebody I gotta say the blonde kid who can't fight super cool, he's learning. I'm like I'm really a big fan. He's like I'm not gonna be useless anymore, like I gotta do something, like that's. That's really cool to see, because he's he realizes that he's really the big weight around. You know, they all got to protect them all the time which, look, learn to fight or don't go to the fights anymore.

Speaker 1: 9:48

Like I don't think. Well see, I think, yeah, he's just got to learn to fight he's to learn to fight. He's not going to stop going to the fights.

Speaker 2: 9:53

Yeah, so go fight man, learn, learn, do some stuff. So it's pretty, it's cool to see uh basically the team reporter at this point Right.

Speaker 2: 10:03

Yeah, the ranking he has. Everyone's enjoying it? Um, I do. I will say I enjoyed the first season more so far, um, but I do like this. That's yeah that, but I like it. I like it a lot and I like seeing sakura is growing and becoming like a team captain of that grade super cool. I like seeing him being like, oh, I'm kind of responsible for these people and he needs to be more. You know thinking about that. So I I do enjoy it, but I did like the first season more. But we'll see, maybe it'll just heat up. I'm sure it's about to. I mean, it's got to be halfway done by now um, yeah, I, I think it is.

Speaker 1: 10:43

So we're at that point.

Speaker 2: 10:46

Wait, I mean we're past the halfway point so look, dude, I'm gonna get I'm gonna get no point, no pun intended flamed on this one. But dude, I'm watching fire force. Like I've always watched it and I've never particularly really loved it. I've always just kind of liked it and I I don't know what there's, I don't know what it is, I just can't get into the show. Man, like I do like fire as a power, it's cool, it's my favorite like element power. But I just can't seem to get into this show. I've tried so many times. I'm good of watch it because we're on the final season, so, no matter what, some of the fights are cool, but I, dude, there's like nothing.

Speaker 2: 11:24

For my favorite character is the one captain that's like ultra strong, like the benny mara, I think his name is. He's dope. Everyone else I don't really care. I don't care about what. Shinra really, whatever. Arthur, I like that. He's delusional. It's kind of funny that he thinks he's a knight, like I think that's an awesome power, like it's pretty cool, yeah but, also power of delusion.

Speaker 2: 11:44

Yeah, delusion like literally delulu power, which is awesome, it's a power, but I can't, I can't get into this show, dude. I've tried've tried so many times, and I love Soul Eater and I know it's.

Speaker 1: 11:56

Yeah, let's unpack that right.

Speaker 2: 11:58

I mean it's a prequel somehow. I don't know, I love.

Speaker 1: 12:03

Soul Eater right Fantastic. The comedy is on point. Yeah, the action is on point. The art style isn't. You know, it's not Windbreaker or like solo leveling right, Like it's a different art style.

Speaker 2: 12:15

Which is fine. I don't know how to describe that.

Speaker 1: 12:18

It's fine, perfectly fine. The show is what it is, but Soul Eater hit.

Speaker 2: 12:25

It was like weird enough or something.

Speaker 1: 12:26

I can only think of a couple episodes that really just pissed me off in Soul Eater. And it's not that they pissed me off in Soul Eater, and it's not that they pissed me off, it was just like oh God, come on, let's get back to the.

Speaker 2: 12:33

You know what. I think it is dude. I think it's Soul Eater's characters are pretty unique. I mean Blackstar, death to Kid, like they were very unique personnel Like interesting. And then I think just the world itself, the weapons and the maestros and all that super cool. But something with this it just doesn't seem to, it's just not hitting dude like I think it's the fire animation that pissed me it did get better, but even when it got better it's still like I don't know, maybe it's the way he fights, because he's using, he's shooting out of his feet and he's I mean, the kicking is kind of cool.

Speaker 2: 13:09

I don't know what it is, dude, I don't really like. It's not just not for me, it's mid dude and I'm gonna get killed for that.

Speaker 1: 13:14

But shinrod's action is mid for me and it's just mid. I can't like it's not terrible, it's not terrible right um, it's not like our next show, like it's.

Speaker 2: 13:28

It's not a no, it's not a slideshow presentation but yeah, but you're right, 100 right, it destroys that in art in action, but the story just. Maybe it's too convoluted or something.

Speaker 1: 13:43

That's the thing though you can't have mid-action and a mid-story yeah, you gotta have something that's just killing it let let's be real. Let's be real um solo leveling top tier action story. That's a mid power progression fantasy story. Like that's not true.

Speaker 1: 14:03

There's nothing really, it's nothing super unique yeah, it's not super unique, they're not telling, it's not a world, uh, breaking story right like there's nothing new there. Um, and again, I love it. It's great, fantastic solo leveling would not have done so well if it did not have top tier action animation oh, of course, but you know what you had to do, that, yeah it well.

Speaker 2: 14:31

Well, I should say you would think you'd have to do that. T-bay didn't understand that, apparently, because they.

Speaker 1: 14:39

Let's get into that.

Speaker 2: 14:40

Right, there is something going on behind the scenes, because I've seen the dude, the author, do interviews and I'm like, bro, you either got paid a huge bonus to pick this company because supposedly he had choice of like five they could choose, and he's like going down with the ship. I'm like I understand your story but like you watch this right, like before we watched it, did you not get annoyed that it's a slideshow, like come on down.

Speaker 1: 15:10

So I don't understand.

Speaker 2: 15:11

Something's going on bro.

Speaker 1: 15:15

I'll count, I'll argue the counterpoint on that, and I'm not it just you know devil's advocate here. Um, obviously he's the biggest fan of his own story, right, and he wants to see it.

Speaker 2: 15:25

I would hope for the animation.

Speaker 1: 15:29

I can buy what he was saying, that he didn't really want a huge studio to take it because they wouldn't show it the same love that they've.

Speaker 2: 15:39

That they're already showing their top tier shows. I mean on paper, I guess.

Speaker 1: 15:45

I can kind of buy that argument right but look what happened. He also said the second half. You know second core. Uh, for this season should get better.

Speaker 2: 15:58

So they're in that.

Speaker 1: 16:00

No, no, okay yeah, we're not past episode 12 yet and I think they're taking a break at episode 12. Anyways is what I heard.

Speaker 2: 16:07

Oh, well, he's probably realizing.

Speaker 1: 16:16

So I don't know, but this is where it comes back to what we were saying about Fire Force T-Bait. As far as the fandom is concerned, that's a top tier story for the fandom and honestly I have to say that, yeah, it's an isekai. Is it completely original? No. Is it slightly derivative? Yes, but it's told better. There are comparisons with, you know, jobless reincarnation, but it's told better than jobless reincarnation and there's no pervy horniness, um, that makes people go ew. So overall, I think t-bait is a better story and I think t-bait story-wise is a better story, better story than re-zero. Like to me, subaru is boring, where, you know, king Gray slash Arthur in T-Bate is a great character, um. So I, I think the anime will do fine and and you can have the mid or, in this case, the gross animation because it's so bad, dude, dude, it's terrible, I don't know, I, I can't argue that look, I watch it and I make I find myself making excuses.

Speaker 2: 17:39

I'm like, look it'll, it'll probably get better, because the story did draw me. Like I want to see the story, but like when there is just no effort on some of these scenes, like dude, it's like, come on, man, don't. Like it makes me want to know what the hell happened behind the scenes, because something happened. Some, either the whole team, got fired. Like, give me a reason, because you're not going to tell me. You put actual people on this and this is the best you all came up with. Tell me some crazy story, I don't even care. Give me an excuse. But like, give me an excuse. But like, let's just, let's be real, this it's, it's lazy and it's so lazy, but this, but I do, and I don't read the, the monoma, but I, I want to, but I'm gonna wait until this season, this one or cow tours or whatever, and then I'll read it. But I hope that they like this is a big deal, because if they get through this and they get another season, they're gonna need to like make some real promises to the fan base. Like, hey, we're changing studio. Like you're gonna have to do that, don't, because if you come back with this again, oh, people are gonna be mad.

Speaker 2: 18:46

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I I like it enough, I'm gonna watch every week, but I'm not like super excited to watch it. I'm kind of just like, okay, let's watch it. I want to see the story. You know it's cool. I like arthur, like he's a cool character, so it's. They're lucky their story is different or interesting enough, because if it would have not been that good, this thing would have been destroyed. If it would just been okay done. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1: 19:12

So I don't know, I'm gonna ride with it, I am, that's the thing I'm gonna keep watching it, even if, even if the studio never changes and they give it another three seasons, and it's crap animation for the next three seasons don't put that curse, I'm still going to watch it. I enjoy the story. I'm going to watch it.

Speaker 2: 19:35

You'll just say hey, it's terrible, the art's terrible.

Speaker 1: 19:37

But it is terrible, it's terrible.

Speaker 2: 19:41

Well, hopefully we'll get to something. Dude, this next one has been the biggest surprise for me.

Speaker 2: 19:47

Yeah, hit me up because I haven't checked this one out at all, so I didn't even realize it, but this one is I don't know what they're called Dongwa. Is that the ones, the Chinese ones? It's the Chinese one. It's dubbed, though. So, yeah, I can handle them good, and it's got like that. What was the anime on Netflix, the League of Legends, one that had Arcane, is that it? That's it right? There's an Arcane series or something. I think it's called.

Speaker 1: 20:14

Yeah, it looks. You know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2: 20:16

It's got a 3D, kind of 2D. So this anime does that, but then when it gets to certain fight scenes it switches to 2D and then goes straight anime. And what's really interesting about this besides the art's pretty good is the storyline is like super interesting. So in the world of to be hero x, trust is what gives you your abilities. Right so, and funny enough. Of course, corporations are kind of involved a little bit on the back end of that, because they so.

Speaker 1: 20:48

Then how does anybody have abilities?

Speaker 2: 20:50

Because nobody tries to do operations Right right. So it's kind of crazy. It kind of happens organically at first and then sponsors get involved a lot of times.

Speaker 1: 21:01

Oh.

Speaker 2: 21:01

God, yeah, so I'll give you a really good Right, yeah. So here's a good example. The first and I didn't realize this either because I didn't really tell you first three or four episodes follows one character, because they didn't really tell you first. Three or four episodes follows one character and then it swaps to one of the because it's top 10 heroes. It's like all these different here. Then it goes to other ones. I thought it was following this one dude, the whole story, but it swapped.

Speaker 2: 21:21

He's of the pr, marketing like guy, for this guy named nice is the character. The hero's name is nice white hair, gold white, like you know, cool, handsome, all this stuff. Beginning of the episode homeboy, me and guys chilling like eating his lunch on the building. Just like you know, lunch break works too hard. Nice walks over, winks at him, jumps off the building and kills himself and he's like wait, what? Okay, what's going on? The marketing team freaks out. They're like hey, you kind of look like nice. He's like I mean, I guess they dye his hair white. He has the same build as nice. They put him in the outfit. They're like hey, you're nice. He's like I don't have the ability. He's like you're nice, don't worry about it. So he starts being really that nice I don't. He starts being nice and people believed it because they told them to, and he got nicest powers, he got all of my stuff, so it's like a, it's like a whole thing. So I'm like, oh, that's kind of, that's kind of weird, you know, that's kind of interesting. So it goes through like there's a whole thing with him and whatever.

Speaker 2: 22:28

Well, another one of the other heroes, dude, ran into a burning building as a fireman. A wall crashed down on this kid and he caught it and he held it for like hours until they could get the kid out. So people found out that, oh, he's like he can't fall or whatever, and his power ended up being he could not be like knocked over. He's like super strong, sturdy, or whatever. Well, the downside of this motherfucking shit is he can't even lay down. He can't even sit down ever. He has to stand forever. Dude, his bed, he's standing up at sleep. You gotta strap him to the bed bro.

Speaker 2: 23:06

They strap him to the bed. It's crazy. So it's like the crazy shit. So like in the. So yeah, these powers like happen from the people believing in someone or trusting them, or whatever they call it trust, and it's like you become important. But the problem is, if you lose popularity, your trust goes down. You start, you get weaker. It's crazy. Why didn't?

Speaker 1: 23:28

they just put out a public service announcement. To be like yo my boy's dirty, can we all just believe that he's allowed to lay down? Can you let him? Sit down, please Can he lay down, please, is that?

Speaker 2: 23:39

fucking hilarious. And then, like the Hero Corporation like manages all the top ten people, oh God, and of course they want to make sure that they don't lose the bill. So it's like really interesting. And then there's this whole thing with chaos and that's like the bad guys and stuff, the villains and stuff. It's really pretty fucking interesting. I'm like this is actually like a unique ass story why is it always chaos? That's the bad guy I know right and then the only one every story the the last one, because now they swap characters again.

Speaker 2: 24:06

But the last one was there was this dude easel and he has like armor no one knows what he looks like his face. He's never taken off his helmet, right, so he's been like a hero for like he doesn't have a face, right, it's gone right.

Speaker 2: 24:19

So this dude's been here for 30 years, right, he's like for doing it for decades. Well, of course, he's super famous. So you know being a hero, and you know they do little like plays of esol, fighting villains, like you know for kids, like kids party shit. Right, this dude dresses up as him plays esol in like kids parties and in like you know, commercials, like this little shit. Well, as it goes on, there's like a hero moment where he saves this girl and people saw his face because the helmet came off. Oh, this new Esau is really handsome. Maybe he's more handsome than the old Esau.

Speaker 2: 24:57

So as people started like believing in the new one, the old one's power started getting lower and new boy's power started going up. So then you have, like, these two dudes that are kind of competing for the mantle that the guy's been carrying for 30 years and it's like going, like it's starting. Like you know, it's pretty interesting dude, it's a really cool concept, really weird, but it's fun. Yeah, it's really cool. So it's definitely been surprising. And the animation style it goes that 3d and then the 2d like kicks it up. I mean it looks awesome when it's 2d and it's just, you know the fights and it flips back and forth and stuff.

Speaker 2: 25:35

Yeah, it's. Uh, it's been a surprise. Apparently. It's like 25 episodes, I think it's. Every character's got like two or three episodes. It goes into some of like their backstory and what's going on and then it's all you know to be hero. X. X is like the ranked one dude which I don't know anything about him, but he's the strongest hero and the most popular hero and blah, blah, blah. Yeah, but it's fun, man, check it out.

Speaker 1: 25:57

And I will. I had no promises, promises, but I will try to check that out.

Speaker 2: 26:04

Yeah, it came out of nowhere for sure. I was like 3D. No, it was like, oh, okay, it's kind of cool. It turned out like one of those things. Well, I think the season's going pretty good, huh.

Speaker 1: 26:18

Yeah, I'm definitely excited to see where the rest of the season takes us. I will say I did so. I have been watching. Um. This one wasn't on the list.

Speaker 2: 26:29

Um, oh god what was the name of it? We talked about it in.

Speaker 1: 26:33

You know, when we brought up the spring season and it was the, the witch that dies or she's gonna die. Oh, how is that? It's actually pretty good. It's the most slice of life thing I've ever seen, but it's just really it's.

Speaker 2: 26:46

It's super funny dude I, I don't know it's, it's well, hey, I'm glad you checked it out, because I, yeah, I wasn't planning on watching that one um animation is really clean.

Speaker 1: 26:57

It's funny uh it's not special. It's not great. It's just a good comfort anime.

Speaker 2: 27:03

I don't know yeah hey, sometimes you need that. You can't have all uh, you know slideshows, fire forcing and wind breaking all the time, so this is pretty interesting. Man, do you see this thing about this piracy site?

Speaker 1: 27:17

um, yeah, dude, it's, yeah, I should we even mention it? Anime heaven. Let's just, we'll just put it out there anime heaven is down, y'all. Um yeah, crunchy roll institute 11 million dmca action. If you were watching your content on anime heaven, I would say now is the time to actually subscribe to crunchyroll, or maybe just go ahead and find another site somewhere. I I don't know if you're sailing the seas. You know that's a risk you take sometimes, right?

Speaker 2: 27:55

I mean, yeah, 11.6 million visits in a month is a crazy amount, man, that is nutty.

Speaker 1: 28:02

So well, that's gonna happen.

Speaker 2: 28:03

I mean, I, I think anime haven't stayed up longer than probably most other ones honestly, I don't know how they skated by for so long I always wonder about that, and you know that's a big deal with the whole. Uh, you know manwa, manga stuff, scan scanlations or whatever they call them, that's another thing. That's like kind of they're going after them a lot too. So, yeah, it's, it's a, it's a. It's a weird world out there. If you're, if you're pirating anime stuff, they're not playing around, no more I honestly they'll probably be anime.

Speaker 1: 28:35

Heaven will probably be back up with a slightly changed name because url that's how this stuff works, right like that's something you know um.

Speaker 2: 28:45

You just change one thing and keep rolling and then, well, they probably have so many backup sites and yeah, yeah, and honestly it depends on where they're hosting the content at.

Speaker 1: 28:53

to begin with, I just, I don't know. There are so many weird loophole laws, or no, there are so many weird loopholes for the laws about, you know, digital content. It's I don't know if they're ever going to get that straightened out. It's you just got to keep dealing with a new site or, like I said, you know, crunchyroll is not just just go get it. Just get the Crunchyroll.

Speaker 2: 29:19

Or just yeah, or you know, log on your friends or something, do something or just buy the content to do something.

Speaker 1: 29:27

That way you have it forever.

Speaker 2: 29:29

You could definitely do that. That's some old school shit. No one knows about that.

Speaker 1: 29:33

Back when we grew up, Well, let's see, here's the thing, though. Here's the thing, though, dude thing, though dude, if you, that's really the best way to do it right, you buy your content, yeah, you pay more for it up front. You buy your content and then you burn. You know, you burn it, save it, uh, that way, when crunchyroll decides to stop streaming it, you will forever have your content yeah, because they like to take stuff off all the time yeah, like I was looking for darker than black um a couple of weeks ago that's not there anymore darker than black.

Speaker 2: 30:03

I can't find it anywhere.

Speaker 1: 30:04

Dude um netflix no, I just had one of those random like man. I haven't seen that in years. I want to check that out and it's nowhere to be found and that kind of stuff is so obnoxious dude. Yeah, so the dvd, blu-ray set, dude, it was like 300 bucks.

Speaker 2: 30:22

I was like, okay, well, I guess I'm never watching this again well, yeah, it's because they know they're not even making them anymore, right?

Speaker 1: 30:30

so that's obnoxious man, that's like yeah, if you are in love with solo leveling, buy the content now.

Speaker 2: 30:38

So that way when they stop streaming it you have it and you never have to worry about it. It's so I, I. That's the thing with streaming. It was never supposed to be. You couldn't find stuff. It's once it was there and then they rotate from one out to the next. They license it for three years, then it disappeared in the void.

Speaker 1: 30:58

Yeah, well, we're see, now we're getting into the whole political side of that thing. But yeah and uh, streaming services were supposed to be the answer to cable and the outrageous price gouging, yeah, the price gouging with cable and streaming was supposed to be the answer to that and now streaming services have become the new cable uh, oh yeah, they're the uh, they're the demon lord that needs to get slayed for sure.

Speaker 2: 31:23

All right, here goes to the next one. So this is a big deal, because, uh, toey is they're gonna start doing some ai, I guess in their series. And I know, I saw, I saw the backlash on twitter on this. People were very mad about it and I didn't see them recant it, so it kind of seems like they're like tough shit, deal with it. I don't know, I really don't know. Well, they shared their plans like.

Speaker 1: 31:48

I think it's like background.

Speaker 2: 31:49

Right, they said background or something.

Speaker 1: 31:51

Yeah, they completely backtracked what they were saying and they're saying we will use ai in the future, but we're not using it right now. Here's our plan for the future but that is tomorrow. Right, exactly Tomorrow, 36 hours from the date from the tweet.

Speaker 2: 32:11

I posted this. Yeah, I heard that they were gonna oh, it's only gonna be backgrounds, not gonna be characters. And then I heard okay, when does it go from background to characters? To let me talk about this before. It's gonna get to a point where, like, they can say all they want, they want to use it for the clouds, but we all know it's gonna end up being action. The second they can get it to do action, that's a wrap, dude, it's a wrap I, this is a hill I will die on because you know I love what they.

Speaker 1: 32:40

I love ai, yeah, but ai is not for everything, don't you know?

Speaker 2: 32:46

just they're gonna try stop being. They're gonna try. They're gonna try, but I'm with you, but I think that they're just gonna try to figure it out.

Speaker 1: 32:57

I mean not try, they'll just push it until it happens. I well, that's the thing, like dude.

Speaker 2: 33:03

This is how we get skynet, yeah because I saw something with ai uh voice acting stuff. They're trying to now get rid of voice actors.

Speaker 1: 33:10

I'm like really yeah, really well, so the thing, this wasn't toey, just so no, anybody watching that's clear. Uh, yeah, so the thing with the ai voice acting. What they were saying was um no, we don't want to replace shows that currently have dubs. Only if it doesn't have a dub, then we will, uh, do an ai voiceover. But how, how quickly does that go from only for shows that don't already have a dub to hey, let's tell them no dub on this, so that way we can do it?

Speaker 2: 33:46

uh, the second that it actually passes and people don't realize it's ai dub.

Speaker 2: 33:53

Then yeah, they're gonna do that, yeah as soon as the current, as soon as the current voice actor season contracts are over, better belief that yeah that'll be in there yeah, and they're gonna be like hey, you know, when you did sign this, you didn't read the last little thing, but we can, you know, use your voice to train ai, so this way you can use your actual your. Really, I don't think they can. So okay, here's the thing I know it's a big thing with that, though.

Speaker 1: 34:16

Well, no, uh I, we're gonna jump back in the way back, the way back time machine here. Um, you remember back to the future, back to the future three, two or three, I don't remember. So the guy that originally played marty mcfly's dad, right, um, he couldn't be in. He couldn't be in either the second one or the third one because of scheduling conflicts and I promise this will relate to what you were just saying here. Just a second he couldn't be in the second or third movie due to scheduling conflicts with something else he was working on. So they were, instead of working with his schedule. They were just like all right, fine, f, you, we'll find somebody else. And they did.

Speaker 1: 34:57

But they found somebody else and then made him look exactly like the other guy and the guy sued and I believe he won. Like that's now part of like Hollywood crap. Like you can't, you can't make a replacement. Look exactly the same as the source actor. So if you relate that over, I would guarantee some good lawyer will find a way to say no, you can't fire my voice actor to then replace my voice actor with their own voice.

Speaker 2: 35:33

But at ai, that you use ai to learn how to yeah, you'll have to find a whole new voice, so I'm fairly certain they will have to find a whole new voice I mean they should, because it's not right. I mean, well, you can't steal people's voice.

Speaker 1: 35:47

Yeah dude in this world. How many times do we? Look at people doing what's right just because it's right.

Speaker 2: 35:55

Never, almost never yeah, all like the fake podcast with people that it sounds pretty real but it's not. Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. It's going to be us buddy. They're going to do a fake podcast with us.

Speaker 1: 36:08

Yeah, so yeah, that's Realm.

Speaker 2: 36:11

Rumors this week.

Speaker 1: 36:12

Just bringing the controversy full to your face, like we don't, there's nothing fun, or exciting about this week's news.

Speaker 2: 36:22

Nope, straight up controversy. Sometimes it goes that way, you know.

Speaker 1: 36:26

All right. So for the hot take this week, would you rather create the best anime ever made, but it has zero fans? Or would you rather be responsible for creating the worst piece of crap anime that has ever been made, but it's got a huge, loyal fan base?

Speaker 2: 36:52

okay, so just one clarifying question on the first one, the zero fans.

Speaker 1: 36:57

It's starting with zero fans or it's just never going to have fans, it's never.

Speaker 2: 37:01

It never gets anything I mean at that point. I'd rather, you know, have made tb, so you're choosing money, so you choose money well, I would rather people you know experienced it a little bit lord, instead of no one even cares yeah, I don't know, that's a weird one, right, I think I would pick like.

Speaker 1: 37:25

I think I would pick my own personal product, like I want to make the best thing possible and you just watch it over and over. I'm the fan, damn it you know, I'm I'm my only fan getting the counter up over and over just rewatching. Yeah, I guess maybe I should have clarified that to like maybe 30 years from now it'll have fans, but not like, not now not anytime soon not anytime soon.

Speaker 2: 37:50

Yeah, I mean you would. Yeah, it makes sense. I mean still, I, whatever have people look at it, I'd rather people see it. At least no one ever sees it.

Speaker 1: 37:58

That's so sad, it's terrible, just think like it's just sitting out there, it's the best anime ever made or ever will be made well, there's some of those cult classic movies that were complete bombs when they came out.

Speaker 2: 38:12

You know, apparently the thing bombed, the best freaking horror movies ever made. Yeah, when it came out of movie theater made like no money. It was terrible. And then it came on vhs and just went you know to be fair, that movie is kind of terrible.

Speaker 1: 38:26

It's just fun to watch, it's just a crazy movie dude.

Speaker 2: 38:30

It's just ridiculous, but it is kind of crap I'm not. I'm not saying it's not fun. It's fun to watch I love it, but also it's crap yeah, but I think what it was is that just, yeah, something else came out at that time, oh, probably, you know. And then they know, no one saw it. And then phs, I mean changed the game, right.

Speaker 1: 38:51

So or I mean, you gotta remember like when the thing came out, everything was based on promotion. So if they didn't have a promotional budget, or if the studio dropped the ball and didn't, promote the way they were supposed to. Your movie could go in to lala land and never get any recognition which it would be wild.

Speaker 2: 39:10

It would be wild to do that. And then, like 10, 15 years later, it blows up on you know rental or something. It'd be so weird, right not it?

Speaker 1: 39:18

yeah, that would, but also be kind of cool, right? So like, let's say, you've made that anime and you completely gave up on the industry because you know it flopped right and then, 20 years from now, you just start getting royalty checks because, like it, all of a sudden gets popular just blows up.

Speaker 2: 39:34

I think I'd be okay with that. Yeah, I mean it would be okay for sure. It would be terrible, though it never happened I say no.

Speaker 1: 39:41

If they asked me to come back and make another one, I'd be like no, screw you guys. Not a chance.

Speaker 2: 39:48

Not to go with you guys again Never.

Speaker 1: 39:50

Yeah, never, all right, I'm with you. That was a good one, all right. Well, if you liked this episode, make sure to follow the show on your favorite podcast app and leave a rating. It seriously helps more than you think, and if you've got thoughts on this season shows, we'd love to hear from you. Hit us up on socials and let's talk, see ya.

Speaker 2: 40:13

Later. Thank you.