Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome to Realm Jumpers. I'm Andrew, and this is my co-host, jordan.

Speaker 2: 0:09

Hey, everyone we're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and anime, bringing you epic stories and unforgettable adventures.

Speaker 1: 0:16

We'll be talking world building, unforgettable villains and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the realm and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the realm. From cursed energy and soul-binding contracts to alchemy fueled by sacrifice and emotion-driven power surges, anime has given us some of the most creative, complex and straight-up bizarre magic systems out there. But what makes a magic system great? Is it the rules, the risks or just how cool it looks when somebody yells the name of their attack? Tonight we're diving into some of our favorite and probably most debatable magic systems in anime. Get ready to defend your favorites or see them get obliterated in the court of hot takes.

Speaker 1: 1:03

Ooh, there's some hot takes gonna happen for sure I, I figure I'm probably gonna get slammed for anything I say in this one I mean, buddy, you've been getting slammed about everything.

Speaker 2: 1:13

I don't really care? Dude, I don't really care like listen to what I said now.

Speaker 1: 1:19

Here's the thing listen to what I said now. If you want to come at me after you've listened to what I said, if you want to come at me with an intelligent debate about what I said and not just Bro's dumb Bro's dumb Bro has a cool hat. Although I appreciated the one guy on TikTok that was like based Padre fan and I was like God damn right. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 2: 1:44

Well, you know, welcome to the internet, right? I disagree, you're wrong because I disagree with you.

Speaker 1: 1:48

Like go away, get out of here like I don't care like they're, they're half of what we say is meant to be debated anyway. And this is just our interpretation. Bro, this is like. This is our interpretation, like it's not like.

Speaker 2: 2:01

We got it source material directly to middle-aged dudes talking about anime like what are you guys talking about?

Speaker 1: 2:06

why are you taking that serious, bro?

Speaker 2: 2:08

we're not middle-aged oh, I'm hit, I'm knocked on the door. Brother right there, I'm almost there. Well, we got some good ones anymore. What is middle? Age anymore I don't know, dude. I mean, if we're living to 100, that's 50, but we got a while to go before that, right?

Speaker 1: 2:23

yeah, exactly, we're nowhere. If we're living to 100, that's 50, but we got a while to go before that, right, yeah, exactly, we're nowhere near that we're good to go.

Speaker 2: 2:28

We got a little bit. We got a little bit, although, you know, if we get some magic system, maybe we won't feel middle-aged anymore.

Speaker 1: 2:36

You want me to kick this thing off?

Speaker 2: 2:37

Yeah, let's go. I mean, the first one is one of the most unique ones ever so. Yeah, let's go for it.

Speaker 1: 2:43

I agree, um, so I mean, these are all off the cuff anyways. These are just our favorites, right again. Yeah, let's preface that these are our favorites. We're not saying these are the best magic systems ever created or even ranking them.

Speaker 2: 2:55

We're not ranking them either.

Speaker 1: 2:56

Yeah, we're not ranking them either because if we're, if we're gonna say best magic system ever created, I'm gonna leave anime in the dust and go straight to sanderson, like that oh, of course right there, absolutely, yeah, all right, hunter, hunter and nin uh, it's got to be one of the most uh, flashy, showy, like awesome power systems in an anime.

Speaker 1: 3:23

Right, because it's pretty great, it has rules, but everybody uses a little bit differently, but not like not so differently where it's like they just make that up. You know what I mean. It's it that nin training arc. You know when I loved it going and killua going to the going to the tower.

Speaker 2: 3:45

Yeah, and then they're like oh my.

Speaker 1: 3:47

God, we got to have to, we got to find somebody to teach us about men like dude, just the. I don't know the feeling behind that, right, because you are unlocked. A whole different side of the anime, oh yeah, like you know, they mentioned in the beginning, I think you know, in the beginning in the six times, right, yeah at the end of the, uh, at the end of the license arc, like the hunter's exam arc.

Speaker 1: 4:11

You know they mentioned that they were like well, now we're on to the, now they're on to the real test, do you think they know?

Speaker 2: 4:17

and everybody was like no yeah, I mean right, enhancement, emission transmutation, conjuration, manipulation, specials, like it's. It's pretty dope that they and they did really like stick to that. Yeah, I mean right, enhancement, emission transmutation, conjuration, manipulation, specialization, like it's pretty dope that they and they did really like stick to that. It wasn't like Naruto at one point did have something and then they just bailed on it. It was like we're throwing stars at people.

Speaker 1: 4:36

I mean, it's pretty much where it went to. Is Jutsu? Well, we can debate that later, but is Jutsu really a magic system, or jutsu really a magic system, or is?

Speaker 2: 4:48

it just very flashy like a power system stuff. Yeah, ninja arts, it's ninja arts until you're throwing planets. Yeah, but no, then they really did stick to it and of course, there's different uses for each one, but it was. It's definitely very thought out and really well rounded.

Speaker 1: 5:00

That's why it's one of the my favorite ones, because there was a lot of effort put in one of my favorite ones. My favorite one to watch, though, was oh god I just blanked on all the names outside of Gon and Killua your least favorite person, least favorite oh Karapika, yeah, jesus Karapika honestly, his name was pretty badass the deal that he made, or whatever the deal that he made, with himself like dude. What a way to trick yourself into getting more power. You know what I mean. Like power.

Speaker 2: 5:37

That contract took a long time like that. Would have taken forever for him to get it.

Speaker 1: 5:41

He got it real quick, and what I want to see is I want to see him break his own rule and see what happens like that's what I would like to see out of that series does he lose?

Speaker 2: 5:50

men all together? Probably, I don't even know who knows.

Speaker 1: 5:54

Right it's gonna be one of those things like oh shit, I can't even tell you that I was about to say a thing from t-bait and I'm like you're not there yet, I can't oh don't do not, please, please.

Speaker 2: 6:03

It's over for now. I'm gonna have to read it we'll see.

Speaker 1: 6:06

Yeah, no, you definitely need to read it. I'll buy the first book for you but isn't there a web comic? There's a web comic but honestly, the. This is one of those times when I would say lean towards the book I know, but it's already.

Speaker 2: 6:20

I can't. I'm already in way of kings. I don't have time for another book. I'm stuck in Stormlight for probably the next 10 years, no it should take you less than.

Speaker 1: 6:28

What page are you on? Where are you on?

Speaker 2: 6:30

Oh, I don't know I have been reading as much because I've been writing more. So it's the give and take thing. Yeah, maybe 200 or something, maybe around there.

Speaker 1: 6:39

I think we should probably rename this episode too. We just talk about random shit all night.

Speaker 2: 6:45

Sorry, rename this episode too. We just talk about random shit all night, sorry, all right, move on, move on, move on. Next, next, next. All right, go go ahead for cursed energy on jujitsu kaizen. Pretty cool idea, right?

Speaker 1: 6:51

negative emotions and stuff I mean dude I you know more about cursed energy than I do. I just know that, like, although it looks very badass and it is super cool, just the whole magic system, not just the cursed energy, right, but like the entire thing looks so badass. But then you have somebody like Gojo who can make a domain and it kind of feels like they aren't playing with any rules at all.

Speaker 2: 7:24

Well, the domain expansion is like the Bankai from Bleach, it's pretty much that you know thing Right, but the magic system itself with supernatural power coming from negative emotions of humans. Interesting because even though curses hate humans, which they're made of cursed energy, they're only really made because humans have negative and bad emotions. So if there was no humans, there probably would be no curses right at a certain point. But then being able to harness them is pretty cool, Although I don't think there's hard rules in it like there is in Nen. It's not like there's one type, two type. I think you can kind of channel them, however, based on what you can do, I mean gojo's special that's.

Speaker 1: 8:09

That's the cv. That's where I start to get a gripe with like magic systems and anime in the first place. Although jjk the again the magic system is badass, looks very cool, I enjoy all of the episodes, here's where I get flamed. I kind of feel about jjk the same way I feel about solo leveling. It's badass and awesome.

Speaker 2: 8:29

But when you really want to get into the nitty-gritty details, jjk is not the show for you if, yeah, if you're gonna get into the details about like the world, it's very bare bones in a way like hey, there's curses, people can't see them, which is kind of like bleach with the hollows. Um, there's people who hunt way. Like hey, there's curses, people can't see them, which is kind of like bleach with the hollows. Um, there's people who hunt them. But then there's like this whole other stuff going on. You know it does get into more detail as it goes on later, which is really interesting, but it takes a while to get into that level of like the story. For sure. It's like towards the end that you start like hearing about the out. You know other countries, are there cursors? There cursors curse users, in other countries, sorcerers, I don't know. Yeah, Dude.

Speaker 1: 9:06

How does that work? Did they ever run into curse users from America? Cause like who are they channeling Like the Salem witches?

Speaker 2: 9:14

Right, I know Right. So the curse it does get into it later and I think there are some curses in different countries. But there's a whole thing with america in the in the monk. I don't want to spoil in the manga, that's pretty, uh, it's. I don't want to spoil it, just say this I will probably never catch up look, there's oil, america's gonna go there and get it similar.

Speaker 2: 9:34

Of course there is, yeah, with cursed energy type thing like oh, we can use it for energy, yeah, oh, yeah, we're in so so we're talking like the ending of devil May Cry, right, right, right, actually in a weird way there's demon power there, we got to go get that.

Speaker 1: 9:48

We got to get that, bro, we got to get that. But you know what's funny? That's ours.

Speaker 2: 9:53

Yeah, right, hey, we can channel this and use it instead of yeah, we're going to do it. I mean it's funny because this and Bleach are kind of back to back on our list here and they're literally have very similar, I feel like, as little as I am in bleach, I feel like bleaches was done better again.

Speaker 1: 10:09

Here's where I get flamed right because everybody loves jjk. Oh yeah, I'm with you all. I'm with you all. I love jjk. That is not what I'm saying, people about magic systems here, people, if we are getting into the nitty-gritty of the magic systems um jjk, is not it? For me, it's awesome but not it.

Speaker 2: 10:30

Yeah, I mean with bleach, right. So you have reishi, which is the spiritual particles that that the people use, but there are different ones. You're right, you got the soul reapers using zanboxos, their, their soul sword. That's different. Quincy's are using arrow bows and arrows that they're summoning um hollows. You know they're made of of of that and they're hunting. You know it's, it's, it is probably more evolved. I would say it's more thought out. Um, of course you have bonkai's right. The, the pinnacle of soul reaper abilities of bonkai, their full release of their powers. It's kind of like it is thought out, actually a little bit more.

Speaker 1: 11:06

I would say I'm probably gonna get flamed for that one, but but I'm a bleach boy, get over it, motherfucker yeah, no, no, but that's the thing, like my understanding of, of bleach right that, no matter like the way the different powers manifest, it still are, or it all originates from soul power.

Speaker 2: 11:22

Yes, yeah, I mean in each soul reaper. Yes, yeah, I mean each Soul Reaper, yes, and then the Quincy's absorb the particles in the air. They can literally channel it from the world itself and use it as you know blasting and stuff like that. So, yeah, I mean it. All it's very simple in the regard of it starts there, but then you see how it branches out into all these different you know abilities, and so I mean abilities and and some of those keto, right, they use Aizen's a big keto user. He uses the spells you know, it's those weird phrases that they say and then some craziness happens pops off a giant cage made of light lands on somebody and stuff. So it's, it's definitely a. They're similar, but I think bleach did go a little further with the system, like how it works. You know what I mean? Yeah, for sure. And the next one I mean look at the next one, right, what do we got in the next one? Black Clover, that's. That's yours, buddy.

Speaker 1: 12:13

So far, so far. Black Clover, and like the, the usage of the grimoires, like the grimoire based powers, that seems to be the most well thought out system. I'm not saying they don't fuzz things and just give asta some you know, super secret op power every once in a while every anime, every anime, every every manga anime. They all do it. Bro, you're gonna say that I'm not saying, it doesn't happen, throw that on.

Speaker 2: 12:43

You know more than Asta.

Speaker 1: 12:45

Oh, dude, for sure, asta has to work for his shit, dude.

Speaker 2: 12:48

You know it's plot armor incarnate, right yeah? But overall it feels like it's the most well thought out system, like that's closer to traditional, like fantasy, fantasy and so fantasy and stuff.

Speaker 1: 13:10

Yeah, because you have an element right and all of your stuff is based on that element, whatever you do with the water or the fire.

Speaker 2: 13:14

Whether you make a firearm because that's badass, or a fire dragon, or you're just fire that right, you know like it's. It's still different, but it's all the same element. That's why I like black clover dude. I mean I might get I might get pardon the pun flame for this, but I personally like it better than fairy tale, even though I do like fairy tale a lot. I like the magic system, the characters. There's the captain and the lieutenant. It's got that kind of feel. I used to think it was a ripoff of fairy tale, but when I got more into the story I was like, oh, this is way different than fairy tale. They just have magic as the same thing.

Speaker 1: 13:45

Yeah, let's just go ahead and compare the two then. Because fairy tales on both of our lists anyways, and I think it's probably for the same reason, because fairy tale has flashy, cool magic that looks good on screen. But if you're going to compare the two, I totally get what you're saying at you know where the comparison level, but fairy tale for me it was like it seemed like it was well thought out at the beginning. You know they do the whole explanation like oh, we have caster type magic and then we have holder type magic.

Speaker 2: 14:15

Bro, I forgot about the holder thing that just tells you how much I use like the celestial keys.

Speaker 1: 14:19

Right, that's, that's magic, because she's got to have the key to do OK, I'm in, okay, I was gonna say I don't even remember that right, so, but that's where you, that's where things start to get a little dicey, because then they immediately introduce, you know, the dragon slayer, natsu, and you categorize that as a caster type magic, right, of course, because it's like.

Speaker 1: 14:40

I mean, he likes to deck people in the chin, but yeah, it would kind of be more like, honestly like, if you want to get down into those details like Dragon Slayer magic is almost more like Augmenter magic from T-Bait.

Speaker 2: 14:54

Yeah, I mean and we'll think about this too, like they and I don't maybe it's been a while, but do they have like a mana reserve that they just burn through? Because if they do, naatsu just keeps getting more because of friendship and belief, which I understand, that's part of Shonen. But it's so overdone in this series that it gets to a point where it's like I thought you were out of mana, like last episode, but now all of a sudden you have more and I don't remember it ever being explained. It's not like um ignio is just giving him more mana somehow. It's like it's never even said. It's just like the power of belief. I want more, I'm gonna get it, which is cool, but it's not thought out in a magic system.

Speaker 1: 15:37

It's just like pulling out of your ass pretty much I will say that well, let's say this, by the time they got to the mid hundreds, or like early hundreds episodes, once they're at the you know the tournament, the like the all guild tournament thing, once they're in the tournament, honestly, so much crap has been introduced that I completely forgot that there were any rules to that magic system period.

Speaker 2: 16:07

I don't even know if there are, because there's Demon Slayers, devil Slayers, dragon Slayers, ice Slayers, god Slayers. Then there's the God Slayers. Wait, wouldn't God Slayer be stronger than Dragon Slayer? No, they're not.

Speaker 1: 16:17

No, because Natsu gets stronger with the power of fight wait, wouldn't god slayer be stronger than, but then dragon slayer? Uh, no, they're not. Because this is no, because not. So you get stronger with the power of fight of like you know of hands.

Speaker 2: 16:28

You know I get it. You want to throw hands, I'm all about it, but their battle system is very um. I think maybe you're right. I think it was thought out and it was like yeah, let's just just whatever, it would have been better if they would have thrown in an explainer.

Speaker 1: 16:40

Like all dragon slayers get stronger with their anger because, like dragons uh, an angry dragon blah, blah, blah yeah exactly, angry dragons destroy cities or, you know, countries, whatever. If they'd thrown even in an explainer like that, it would have done a lot to like smooth over the just the crazy amount of power that you know these boys are tossing around yeah and I say, yeah, how many years it's been?

Speaker 2: 17:10

how long he looks the same mostly. So, maybe a little bit, but like it's not, like he's grown over 10 years and it's like okay, he's. You know, he looks kind of the same maybe a couple years and then the dude is just like I mean I love nazi, he's great, but it's not really thought out.

Speaker 1: 17:26

Let me be honest about that. Here's something I I, so here's what I don't remember at all. What kind of magic did gildar gildarts have? Because, like, he was literally like, so gildarts is the aura farmer of, yeah, fairy tale yeah, he's a man, just straight out there aura farming dude, he's out there, he's like oh, I fought it.

Speaker 2: 17:46

Uh, what is that knowledge? I fought it. Now I lost my arm. Yeah, hey, my arm's gone. It's metal like dude and now I'm stronger. Yeah, and he's. I think it was gravity, though for him I'm pretty sure, yeah, yeah, that sounds, that sounds right.

Speaker 2: 18:00

I which, but I just don't remember no, it's definitely cool the thing with that show, though, that caught me originally is the character design dude. They had some really cool different character designs with, like some of their outfits and stuff. I mean black clover. I would say they beat them on that with character design, because black clover, you know, it's just like a cape, you just have the cape, but but black cover does uh, it's, it's weird, it does it, does it better, it does fantasy the black bulls out of the black bulls especially.

Speaker 1: 18:28

I mean dude, who doesn't love the, you know the black aesthetic dude, that's the guy with the jaw teeth with the mask.

Speaker 2: 18:36

Yeah, though, it's bang, he's just, he's just banged.

Speaker 1: 18:40

The whole whole crew is solid. Yeah, I love Black Clover. The entire Magic Knights in Black Clover is solid, right Like. Even the annoying ones are still like, y'all are still pretty cool.

Speaker 2: 18:52

And then I remember in Black Clover I'm like, oh, there's other countries that are like the heart or this space, whatever, and I'm like, yeah, but they're like nowhere near as cool as these dudes. Like, these dudes run everything. Yeah, they're not, they're just.

Speaker 1: 19:03

They're not even as strong as them, do you at all so yeah, bringing it back like when you get to the mid-hundreds on black clover, I still feel like it's a very well thought out magic system um, yeah, you know there's there's plot armor in there every once in a while of course that's everything right, uh, but overall, you know, as the as many similarities as there were in the beginning to fairy tales magic system, um, it kept its rule base and it kept going with it and it kind of held everybody to that standard and then they didn't have any super outliers like guild arts or gojo right, like well, yami yami, strong yami what's her name?

Speaker 2: 19:45

melorona, or whatever? The sister, the fire sister, oh yeah, yeah sure yeah yeah, she's a monster.

Speaker 1: 19:52

She's my favorite character, she what did yami say about her, though? He's like, what did he call her? Oh, dude, it's gonna bug me, because I I honestly I laughed out loud for like five minutes he's like terrified of her dude.

Speaker 2: 20:02

He's like this woman is a maniac.

Speaker 1: 20:05

She's an animal. Okay, what's her brother's name? What are?

Speaker 2: 20:11

her brother's names.

Speaker 1: 20:12

Fugue.

Speaker 2: 20:13

Fugueleon Said it wrong.

Speaker 1: 20:18

You're going to say it wrong Fuegoleon, fugoleon.

Speaker 2: 20:26

Fugoleonon. There you go. Yeah, I don't know the youngest one. I don't remember him, what his name is.

Speaker 1: 20:28

He's cool, but I don't remember his name yeah, anyways, there was a scene where she busts into the bar where yami's at and um, yami just calls her. What the fuck did he say? He was basically just like fogoli sister, and she was like that's not my name and he's like I really just thought you guys put fuego at the beginning oh, that's right it's not that it's not exactly like that, but it's something, it's something like that dude, she's a great character.

Speaker 2: 20:53

Goleon. He called her sis goleon, that's what it was he goes.

Speaker 1: 20:57

I just thought you guys put goleon at the end of all your names and and dude.

Speaker 2: 21:03

That character is the outlier character in that in that series it's not an outlier like gojo or guild arts compared. No, no, no, no yeah, it's not like way out of control, but I do like that series because they have clear captains and then then the youngins and the youngins are growing in power and some of them are outpowering the captains. And I mean the dude that likes to cut all the time, the Blade dude, just a crazy cool character Like that just has good characters. Dude Jack the Ripper, isn't it?

Speaker 1: 21:31

I think he is Jack. Actually, I think he is Jack the Ripper. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2: 21:35

It's a cool story. It's just than Fairytale, but it is fun. They're both very fun, but Fairytale is more power of belief, although Fairytale does beat their ass on the soundtrack. I will definitely say that I love. Fairytale's soundtrack.

Speaker 1: 21:49

Honestly, yeah, I agree with that, I can agree with that.

Speaker 2: 21:57

Black Clover is not very iconic in the sound, but Fairytale definitely when it starts hitting, you're like, oh yeah, for sure, definitely when it starts hitting, you're like oh yeah, For sure, Can you tell that we have a?

Speaker 1: 22:05

clear favorite here, yeah.

Speaker 2: 22:07

Black Clover seems to be kind of the winner for all the matches, but I still almost dropped it because of Asta's yelling in five episodes. I did drop it in episode one.

Speaker 1: 22:14

Episode one. I dropped it. You were the one that told me I had to get back into it. So after five years I finally got back into it and had to get back into it.

Speaker 2: 22:27

So after five years, I finally got back into it and I was like I will give it another try.

Speaker 1: 22:29

Well, it's crazy, because you had a beloved host. He's awesome, he stops yelling, so much. Yeah, he still yells, but it's not in your face, like he doesn't immediately always give you the natsu slash naruto vibes but, he would yell every every five minutes.

Speaker 2: 22:38

Dude, it was so bad. Yeah, all right, moving on, you gotta take the next one, because I, you know, I'm not, I'm not watching it.

Speaker 1: 22:45

Well, I mean. So these next couple of ones are debatable, but do they belong? You know, I guess that's for everybody else to decide. So one piece, the devil fruit powers, right. So hear me out, is it magic? I kinda um. What I do appreciate about the, you know, the devil fruit powers is they have a very clear-cut rule system. You know, like, if you're gonna make a rule, stick to the. I never.

Speaker 2: 23:13

I never watched it, so I don't know. I know devil fruit, but uh, it just seems like a, you know, a catalyst to give you an ability, but you, you can't swim, I know that much about it, but yet you might be a pirate. Why be a pirate if you just be on land and just rule people? I don't understand. I'm not getting into that.

Speaker 1: 23:29

Okay, so watch the live action. Watch the live action, okay, okay, at least that's only eight episodes and gives you a pretty good feeling of like.

Speaker 2: 23:38

It does a good job.

Speaker 1: 23:43

It feeling of like it does a good job. It does a good job. Um, so the one piece with the devil fruit powers. It is similar to fairy tale in that, like you see crazy powers all over the place, right, you're like what kind of fucking magic is this?

Speaker 1: 23:50

like we got stretchy man, we got ace, who you know just blows crap up with fire, you know. And then you got, like some of these random powers that I can't even think of them all, but like you know, you got, uh, you got the clown and he can do weird stuff like you know. Take all of his body parts apart, like he can't be sliced. I can't remember what the name of his fruit was.

Speaker 2: 24:12

Yeah, he literally take his body all apart and put it back together so you don't know what you're gonna get when you eat it.

Speaker 1: 24:17

Right, right, yeah you don't know, but there are only three types of devil fruits that, and dude, do not ask me to name them um, but there are three types of devil fruits that give you yeah, like they have specific power bases.

Speaker 2: 24:31

It can be a multitude of things inside of like this type so you're like like example, you're like, do you know, when you go to get the fruit, like, oh this, oh this is a fire type one. If I eat this I'm going to get a firepower, or is it just like random shit? You have no idea.

Speaker 1: 24:48

So it's my understanding, if I remember correctly, that only one. So like, let me back that up Luffy ate the gum gum fruit, right, there can only be one gum gum fruit in existence at any given time. Okay, so no one can have that power? Okay, okay, nobody else has got stretchy, stretchy power, um, until luffy dies and then a certain point in time later, the the fruit will like reappear. Yeah, now, that said some people, and this is where it gets kind of vague. Some people have figured out how to tell kind of what fruit they have seen, based on like previous records and other stuff, and then just like historical do they look different?

Speaker 2: 25:38

all the fruits actually visually look a little different dude, I don't even remember.

Speaker 1: 25:41

I think they're all colored differently and they probably all have a slightly different shape, but I mean, it's a fruit's a fruit, it looks like a, it looks like a peach or a plum on a tree. Yeah, dude, I don't know, it depends right it's all different.

Speaker 2: 25:54

Yeah, yeah it's always is that the case for all the powers? There's only one of that power out there supposed to be, and as far as I know that's supposed to be. Yeah, that's see, that's interesting. See, that's an interesting little thing like, because you don't, he knows there's no one else out there. That's stretchy rubber man, right, exactly but who teaches you how?

Speaker 1: 26:12

you just learn it as you go. Luffy's dumb.

Speaker 2: 26:14

Luffy doesn't know that other people know that no, I mean like the abilities of different powers no, that's, I'm just saying Luffy, probably he's dumb dude. He's dumber than.

Speaker 1: 26:25

Natsu. He's dumber than Naruto Boy. He's dumb, but he's just like them. You know, it's like he gets better in a fight. All of a sudden. He's a strategic genius.

Speaker 2: 26:42

And is there like some? Well, I guess, if there's only one, one power of that thing, nobody can really teach you how to do it.

Speaker 1: 26:44

So you're kind of just figuring out, you're on your own.

Speaker 2: 26:46

I mean, that's a cool system.

Speaker 1: 26:47

they do have this other like vague system that I haven't fully gotten into yet because I'm not sure and I don't want to look up details right. So if you're going to email me and tell me I'm an idiot, because I explained it wrong, that's why I'm only in like the 350 to 400 range episode count, because I can only watch a few at a time and then, you know, crap happens.

Speaker 1: 27:15

Yeah, there is this other vague system like Shanks. You know Luffy's like father figure, right, dude's mad strong, but why is he strong? Like there's some other vague power out there that isn't tied to the devil fruits, and I'm sure it will be fully explained later, but I don't have those details and I don't. I didn't want to look it up just for this episode, so I can.

Speaker 2: 27:41

Yeah, yeah, technically, you know know, this is what their power is.

Speaker 1: 27:45

There is a vague system out there. To me right now it's just vague. It hasn't been explained yet. But you see, like some people that are like you are way too strong to just be a normal human, you know what are you doing, yeah?

Speaker 2: 28:01

yeah, okay well, yeah, so that's cool, all right. I mean, I always told you I like it, I just don't. You know, I haven't started it.

Speaker 1: 28:07

One day, maybe, when it's one of those it's kind of it's got, it's got rules, so does it fit into the to the magic power systems? For this episode we're just gonna say, yeah, it does, it's a magic.

Speaker 2: 28:19

Yeah, I mean when I mean so, is the next one alchemy for fundamental alchemist, right? I mean, not everyone can do it, right, only some of the people can do the alchemy, yeah the, uh, the alchemy thing, right, only some people can do it, not everybody can do it, you know, you have to figure it out. There's symbols, there's equations. It's definitely a magic system in my opinion it's yeah, channeling energy from. Another yeah.

Speaker 1: 28:43

Yeah, it's a weird combination of, like science, magic and occult. That's what's so cool about it, yeah, and it does have rules, yeah and you're right not not everybody can do it, so put one exchange, baby.

Speaker 2: 28:57

Yeah, exactly, lose that arm and leg for nothing, boy, what was the point of that? Oh, you brought a husk back to life. Congrats, yeah, yeah as a six-year-old.

Speaker 1: 29:08

But yeah, I do think it should count as a magic system, first and foremost because it looks badass, dude the circles, and then he can do them without having to just clapping. Yeah, dope, dope, dope, dope, dope well, that's because you know he broke the rules. Yeah, well still awesome.

Speaker 2: 29:26

It's funny about the people who have cheat the glove they can just snap but what?

Speaker 1: 29:30

but see, that has a, that has an explanation, right, because the circle, the alchemist circle, is on the glove, so he's already formed the circle didn't he carve it into his hand, remember, because he didn't always have the glove?

Speaker 2: 29:47

no event, no, in one of the fights, yeah, yeah, there was like blood or something. I do remember, dude, that's definitely magic system. 100 percent. Roy mustang is right the goat roy is the goat one the best fire users and I love fire users in anime. He's one of my favorite ones.

Speaker 1: 30:03

Honestly, he's just one of the best characters in an anime period, and this is probably a little bit of bias, because I love Travis Willingham Amazing. Yeah, he's a great voice actor and I love everything he does.

Speaker 2: 30:18

Terrible day for rain or whatever. Iconic line. Iconic line dude like so good and hit his honestly in revenge scenes in anime. His revenge scene in anime against lust. I think it was lost. Literally one of the best ones ever, ever animated dude, complete like I don't care, wasn't it? Was it envy it was. I don't think it was Lust, no, it was both, because, wait, it was Envy, which is the one that can transform. I think it was Envy, technically, can't they all? Well, he killed Lust and he fought Envy.

Speaker 1: 30:57

Like the revenge. I think that was Envy.

Speaker 2: 31:02

Yeah, because he humiliated Envy. Remember Like blew apart everything, dude, epic, epic, epic epic scene. Yeah, it was Envy, sorry.

Speaker 1: 31:12

I had to look.

Speaker 2: 31:15

God talk about hated characters. Oh my God, I hated Envy, dude, dude Envy yeah, so like at least the other ones right, and we're. We're getting off the topic of action we're getting way off topic here, but this is. This is rant time.

Speaker 1: 31:27

Well, no, this is, this is the purpose of the show. Right, like this is why, like, I kind of wanted to step the format back to like what we had, because we were getting too into this thing where it's like we're only talking about the thing that's on the title of our episode and that's it. And it's like bro, I want to, I want to ramble. If you don't want to listen to me ramble, this is probably not the show for you. Yes, I'm not even going to apologize for that. Oh yeah, go away.

Speaker 2: 31:51

I will stay semi on topic.

Speaker 1: 31:53

But anyways, lust at the very least.

Speaker 2: 32:08

And some of the others. You at least feel a little bit bad for them and you can understand their point of view envy. You're like I hate you, I want you to burn. I, because you're so cocky, just runs fucking mouth all the time, constantly talking trash dude like the rest of them didn't? I mean a little bit like grade was cool even yeah, like whatever.

Speaker 1: 32:20

King bradley even made solid points on why he's doing what he's doing great.

Speaker 2: 32:25

He was cool. Yeah, he made great envy's, just like. Hey, I'm stronger than you and I'm gonna freaking lord it over you because you're a. I hate the world. Yeah, bro, like. And then you find out it's a little tiny, little lizard gecko thing. That's what it really the real form was. Remember it was like a tiny little lizard or something.

Speaker 1: 32:45

After all that and you're like no, it's, it's envy is the most hated I. I don't know is it is anybody in that show more hated than in? No say I, at least for me hit me up if, if you can give me a well-reasoned argument on why somebody else should be more hated than envy. But I mean, dude, once she ganked your boy, um unnecessary, and then laugh you're gonna laugh.

Speaker 2: 33:07

You're gonna laugh about it. Are you fucking kidding me? Do you? Burn, burn, burn, burn, burn, burn. Right, yeah, you gotta die. You gotta die, dude. And he was like, whatever I do, I'm going to kill that damn thing. And I will tell you this, though the reveal of Envy's monster form, where it's big, fucking, terrifying dude With the people, remember, screaming for help. And then you're like this is horrific dude. Yeah, yeah, dude. That show's so good man, I've got to watch it again.

Speaker 1: 33:38

That show's awesome yeah, no, I need to watch it again and I've been looking. So I do love brotherhood. Don't at me there. I know it's the more correct version, but I also like the original series and I haven't seen the original series in forever and I want to watch that one again. I've seen brotherhood at least, probably two and a half, three times.

Speaker 2: 34:00

I want to watch the original again it's, it's so close, except for I like his arm better. In the original one it was drawn better, it was shinier in the original.

Speaker 1: 34:09

I like the beginning better in um the original because they start out in god. What is that city out in the desert?

Speaker 2: 34:18

they start out city.

Speaker 1: 34:19

Yeah they start out out there, um, with that big priest, whereas like in brotherhood, that doesn't happen until four, five or six episodes in. Yeah, yeah, um, and I just better opening I like that starting point. You know, to me, like headcanon, that's the starting point yes, because that's what you saw first.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Right, was that one? Yeah, same, yeah, like I thought the train ending on that one was the real ending and I was always like, well, dan, this ending kind of sucks, like he's gone. And then you watch the brother. You're like because I didn't even know back then any of that. And so I'm watching brother. I'm like, whoa, this is way different. They're going to the north. Wait, wait, there's a north. I was so shocked. I was so shocked.

Speaker 1: 35:02

And then the end of that, I was like like oh, wow, Speaking of North, that, Lady General Colonel, whatever that ran the North.

Speaker 2: 35:07

The sister.

Speaker 1: 35:07

Dude. Yeah To the buff dude. Yeah, dude, she was great.

Speaker 2: 35:12

Why is it always the?

Speaker 1: 35:13

sister to the buff dude or the crazy guy like Siskelion. Well, her character was great. It's always the crazy strong sister that you're like man, I like this chick Dude.

Speaker 2: 35:22

You live in the north and she's just like super strong, but no alchemy at all, Just a straight badass with a sword. Just a straight beast. Beast Kept everyone in line, yeah, yeah. No, that north part was my favorite part.

Speaker 1: 35:36

No that was a great arc, but, no, completely gone.

Speaker 2: 35:40

I'm derailing this train right now, dude, we are so derailing this train I don't even care.

Speaker 1: 35:45

Tell me an anime ending that pissed you off as much or more than the original full metal alchemist oh, dude on the train.

Speaker 2: 35:55

Oh my god. Wait, he was here. He got sent to our world, right, wasn't that the ending dude?

Speaker 1: 36:00

that's right, oh my god can you think of anything else that pissed you off that much? Because I've got dude, go ahead when you're talking.

Speaker 2: 36:05

I'll think of, see if I can think of anything else that pissed you off that much, cause I've got one Dude. Go ahead.

Speaker 1: 36:08

When you're talking, I'll think of see if I can think of anything. Dude fate zero. Before I knew there was a, before I knew that there was more to that story fate zero. I was like what the hell is this? I was like this show sucks. I'm never watching it again.

Speaker 2: 36:24

Fate Zero was the one with the dark haired guy.

Speaker 1: 36:28

Because it wasn't Okay. The dad, the one that raised, well, no yeah he is the dad.

Speaker 2: 36:31

Yeah, he raised it, adopted and birthed. So you watched that before the other one. Oh man, I would have been mad.

Speaker 1: 36:41

I was just like this is terrible. Like was just like this is terrible. Like what dude that hit me. And I was like, why did I watch this, wasted my time. I was like, why did we make this? I was like, did they just like crushing everybody's souls? What was the point of writing this?

Speaker 2: 36:57

and then you watched the second one, you're like, oh no, yeah, dude, it was it was. It was almost a year before I found the other stuff, you know the thing with fate is it's so complicated because, like half of them are like alternate reality, like when I didn't even know that because I originally was trying to watch them all in order and then I looked it up and it's like, yeah, half of these aren't even, they're just like random versions that could have grand order is completely separate, yeah, and I'm like, okay, all right, and apparently there's one right now.

Speaker 2: 37:25

I've been trying to watch it for six months. They released two episodes and never released another one and I'm like, what is it? I don't know if they're movies. It's really greatly animated, by the way, it's really good. And I've been like checking it and I'm like, oh, there's nothing. It's been four months since I watched the second episode. Yeah, I don't know, apparently king arthur's actually in it or something. I don't know. I hate that, yeah or whatever.

Speaker 1: 37:51

We got a couple of honorable mentions. Do you want to go for them?

Speaker 2: 37:54

uh, t-bait. No, I mean, I don't know too much about it, but t-bait, although I do like the magic and the augmenting thing. That's really cool because if we're getting to like the mythology of the like, what is it called? What's it called the give me the word. Where you're like, you can do the martial arts and you augment your strength and all that stuff.

Speaker 1: 38:14

Oh, like, well, I mean, like, what is that? Yeah, yeah, like they're doing that, because that's what he had in his own world.

Speaker 2: 38:20

So but that's cool, that they're like blending two different systems together.

Speaker 1: 38:24

I think that's great and yeah, so the caveat to this right is T-Bait, but the comic and novel version only because the anime version was not explained. Well, you know, for the different types of magic, they explained it, they said augmenters and casters, but they didn't really go into detail about, like what, how the magic works, right, so it's got a lot of the uh, you know, it's got.

Speaker 1: 38:47

It's got a lot of chinese cultivation stuff in there, the quote, that's the first thing I really appreciate you know, and I've gotten into some of that lately and it's fun to read, you know, um, not so much fun in an anime when they're not going to talk about it, when they're just going to gloss over all the details. So for a details person, if you are a details person, the t-bait and, uh, the t-bait, the t-bait magic system is pretty good. It's based on, you know, it's got a little bit of everything, but the chinese cultivation aspects just really reached out and, you know, spoke to me, um, I liked it both, right the casting and or no when?

Speaker 1: 39:25

so when you get to a certain level.

Speaker 1: 39:28

It seems like he can I mean In in they? They kind of laid it out in the novels, right, when you get to silver level, when you get to silver core, is when you like, it doesn't. The distinction between augmenter and caster doesn't really matter as much anymore. Oh, interesting, okay, but in that world there aren't a ton that make it to silver core. There's even less that make it to white core and, as of right now, I think Arthur slash Gray is the only one that makes it. You know, beyond white core, maybe maybe some of the I can't maybe some of the asura, and that's as much as I'll say about that okay, yeah, yeah, okay, no, I like it a lot.

Speaker 2: 40:16

I don't know the next one, though, I don't. I have only watched it, but I never really fell into it that hard well, here's the thing, though.

Speaker 1: 40:21

You've seen supernatural, yeah. Okay, here's the show black.

Speaker 1: 40:24

But I mean, this is again why it's an honorable mention, because it's not like a fully developed. Is it a fully developed magic system? No, not in the sense of the other ones that we were talking about, but like, if you want to think about it in terms of like the show supernatural, you know, most all of the magic is pretty much tied to contracts with demons. And then later on, in some of the arcs, later, you know, there's like some occulty witch stuff. But it's not a, it's not a well developed magic system as in you know, black Clover, full Metal, alchemist and stuff like that. There's not a lot of rules, it's just, you know, tied to demon contracts.

Speaker 1: 41:04

Ok, well, that works, works which still makes it cool, still makes it very cool, still makes it very interesting, um, and it's so awesome to look at visually because I think, I think it's beautiful animation, the sigils yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but but it just falls short of the list because it's not like a fully qualified magic system.

Speaker 2: 41:26

Okay, yeah, I've seen the first season. It did look cool. I just never got in. I just kind of fell out of it. I really enjoy it. It's a great show. Yeah, I'm going to have to catch back up on it. When we don't have a summer lineup or a lineup coming up, that sounds interesting.

Speaker 1: 41:42

Hit me with some Realm Rumors dude that's interesting. Hit me with some Realm Rumors dude.

Speaker 2: 41:45

So this week we're just going to really talk about the summer season that's starting up here like in a week or two, actually like a week. We got some second season, you know multiple season shows coming out and then some first season bangers, I think that are hitting. I sent you one of them, that one about the and I'm going to butcher the name, gachi Akuta, I guess Framed and cast into a trash filled abyss. Ruto fights monsters in the system that dumped him.

Speaker 2: 42:13

That's the one I sent you in that video Looks pretty revenge type, which is cool. I think blood's involved as the power, some kind of power system. I'm not really sure, from what I can tell.

Speaker 1: 42:23

That's always interesting.

Speaker 2: 42:24

But that is definitely interesting, so I'm going to check it out. For sure, this one comes out July 6th, so pretty soon. Now we got Kaiju number eight, season two.

Speaker 1: 42:35

I love Kaiju.

Speaker 2: 42:36

Did you watch?

Speaker 1: 42:37

season number one.

Speaker 2: 42:38

Yeah, I read the manga too, yeah absolutely, so it's good, yeah, it's great.

Speaker 2: 42:42

No, it's worth it, dude, it's really. Uh, one of the things you'll love is, uh, main character is like 30 something, so that's pretty cool because it's an adult, you know, not like a 15 year old. Um, the main character, kafka. He faces new out and faces new allies and learns more about number eight's power as more stronger kaiju start showing up. This is definitely a really cool uh show. Definitely check it out. Uh, humans fighting giant kaijus and they have kaiju start showing up. This is definitely a really cool uh show. Definitely check it out. Uh, humans fighting giant kaijus and they have kaiju weapons made of some of the stronger ones. Like it's, it's, it's dope. It's a really good show. You're gonna love it. Uh, dan to dan season two. So we all you know most people know the first season, second season. Here we go. Dude, they better have a good opener again dude, I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 43:26

If you can't come up with a good opener, please just reuse the song from the first dude, just reuse it, man, yeah I don't know what's so good.

Speaker 2: 43:33

That was so good I'm a real fan of this anime because it's so weird and I love the paranormal and the sci-fi element. It's just a just interesting show, dude. So I was not.

Speaker 1: 43:45

I was big on it, right, really well I mean, well, you were there, you made me sit down and watch the first episode like this is gonna be uncomfortable. You're like what is happening? Yeah, what is it eight minutes in and I was like the time we're reaching levels of show where, like I would have already cut this off. You're like it doesn't do what you think it's gonna do and I was like, are you sure?

Speaker 2: 44:09

you're like, I feel like I'm watching goblin slayer.

Speaker 1: 44:11

Yeah, oh, dude, goblin slayer at least can be explained dan to dan, you know you're like the alien ship that can be explained.

Speaker 2: 44:21

What are we doing right now?

Speaker 1: 44:22

dude it was bad.

Speaker 2: 44:23

It was bad and then the whole comes out and you're like what is happening with this show? This is insane, oh no.

Speaker 1: 44:29

Turbo Granny shows up, and then I'm like all right this is not going to be what I thought it was going to be, and Turbo Granny was just-. The show is so weird.

Speaker 2: 44:45

I love it dude, and she's so mad about it, dude I know you could have picked, like a monkey or something, and made it like funny that show is really.

Speaker 2: 44:55

It's really weird. I really like that show a lot. It's the next one. I'm not a big fan, I never really watched it. But dress up darling. Season two is out, so I know people love that. I don't know anything about it. Yeah, it's about cosplay. The guy likes a girl who cosplays. I don't really know much, um, but it's a big, very popular show. So, uh, enjoy, you know whoever loves it. Dr stone we got coward 2. I believe this is the last season of dr stone. That's gonna finish the story. Uh, love dr stone. Super interesting anime and I'm pretty sure I read that the creator of it I think he's also a biologist or a scientist. So when you watch Dr Stone, it makes sense because everything's explained with what they're doing with science. I love that show though. Super interesting and cool. And then a couple other ones that are big. We got Shield Hero coming back for Season 4. We all know shield hero.

Speaker 1: 45:47

I'm just going to keep interrupting. Go ahead. Have you seen beyond season one?

Speaker 2: 45:51

Yeah, I'm caught up with it, okay.

Speaker 1: 45:53

So there was such a long break between season one and season two that I I just as excited as I was when I first watched shield hero and I'm talking like I was watching it weekly, right, like every week I was. I was when I first watched shield hero and I'm talking like I was watching it weekly, right, like every week I was. I was, I was watching the new episode. There was such a long break between season one and season two that by the time season two came out, I was just I'm so surprised.

Speaker 2: 46:18

It's fantasy, it's you know, it's so up your alley. I am shocked that you're not like caught up with with shield hero I really am, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 46:29

I I had. I remember I had some initial problems with the way he handled the girls. I was like, bro, you're running a straight, like not cool harem. Like what are you doing, bro? And then people were like, no, it's not really like that. And I'm like, okay, well, if it's not going to be really like that, fine no, it's not.

Speaker 2: 46:52

It's not. It's actually not like that. Yeah, I don't think it's like that you know.

Speaker 1: 46:56

So again, that was just one of those shows that I was like we're pushing some boundaries here that like are really close to the territory. When I'm like that, I'm not gonna, bro.

Speaker 1: 47:05

We had a fake sexual assault allegation that kicked off the entire storyline right and see, you can see where I thought that was gonna get bad right. Like, yes, we knew the allegation was fake, but I totally thought some bad revengey stuff was coming later down the line oh my god, you're scarred from redo healer that's what this is? What did I make it? One one episode of redo of healer and I thought it was yeah, dude I. I was thinking bad stuff was coming, no, no no, no, it's not like that.

Speaker 2: 47:32

He uh, yeah, he does her, her lies and stuff come out, and so, no, you would dude.

Speaker 1: 47:37

I think I enjoyed season one, but the, the break between the somehow cooled off and I'm like well, I don't got time. There's two and three you can watch I think I'll have to re-watch season one first, and gauge, like how I feel about it well, what I liked about it originally was he.

Speaker 2: 47:55

Actually it was really interesting because he was super, like I'm in a fantasy world this is amazing, you know like into it and he was all I'm the shield, I'm the hero, cool, and there's a spear and a sword, whatever. And then, like that happens to him and he complete, completely jaded, like f everyone fuck this. Well, I'm gonna, I'm gonna do what I want to do and like that's pretty rare for a main character to act that way. You know that that's just a different take. And then all the other main heroes are freaking, like they're annoying, like you're like dude, these guys suck, um. So it's fun. It's good to see him rise up, like literally rising through, and becomes like loved by the people. And yeah, it's, I'm a big fan of it. And the last season I wasn't super into it as far as the storyline where it was going. There was some cool stuff, but uh, hopefully we're gonna get back on track.

Speaker 2: 48:47

They did introduce some pretty interesting things with like what you remember, like the invasions or whatever yeah, near the end yeah, there's like invasions from other worlds trying to take this one and it looks like some of the other people invading are heroes from other worlds, so that's like, oh, so they're all kind of being put into the same. Yeah, it's pretty cool, uh. And then really my last one that I'm really interested is this thing called lord of mysteries. So I believe so. I've seen trailers of this online and the animation is insane. It has double the amount of frames that soul leveling had per episode, which is kind of crazy because I think it had everyone's saying it's like 16 000 in soul level. This is 30 000 plus frames per episode and the fights look insane and I believe it's one of the dongwa whatever the chinese ones animations, um, but just from the tagline, I'm like dude, I have to see this In a steampunk world.

Speaker 2: 49:47

I'm in already Steampunk yes, steampunk World of Secrets and Gods Klein, like the name, dives deep into occult power and peril. I am so in Like what are we talking about? Steampunk gods? Let's go, dude, let's fucking go. I'm all about this.

Speaker 1: 50:03

No for sure. Let's fucking go. I'm all about this. No for sure this is like I.

Speaker 2: 50:09

I don't know that that's so. Those are vibes I look for right dude steampunk yeah, uh, d gray man, which you know everybody.

Speaker 1: 50:16

I think people just sleep on that now because it's old, but it's still a good series. Gray man was great.

Speaker 2: 50:21

I loved it I mean, the only other big one I can think of is Trigun. It's steampunk. Yeah, I'm excited for it. Look up the trailer, though. I'll send it to you. I was like yo, what is?

Speaker 1: 50:37

this. So this airs in like a couple of days. It says June 28th. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2: 50:43

I'll have to check that out, I'll be checking it out for sure. And okay, yeah, I, yeah, I'll have to check that out, I'll be checking it out for sure. And that's about it. I mean, there's obviously a lot more, but we're not going to go through everything.

Speaker 1: 50:53

Yeah, there's always seen a lot of. I mean like we've got a very specialized podcast where we talk about random shit and also maybe sometimes fantasy. It was supposed to be fantasy.

Speaker 2: 51:01

Give me some action. At least I can talk about action all day long. What do you got for hot takes?

Speaker 1: 51:08

All right, I give it to you. Would you rather have an overpowered Isekai skill tree or a magic system that actually makes sense? If you had to pick a starting point, give me this bro, skill trees, are you kidding me?

Speaker 2: 51:27

Leveling up, picking abilities, putting in strength, agility and whatever. I would take that.

Speaker 1: 51:34

No, you wouldn't go for a Grimoire-based power. That's like Well don't forget. It's a magic system that actually makes sense.

Speaker 2: 51:44

Okay, but don't forget, most of the people in Black Clover are not magic knights. They're just literally watering their plants with their grimoire.

Speaker 1: 51:49

You have your choice. You have a choice.

Speaker 2: 51:53

I'd still take skill trees dude all day long. Oh, her power is skill tree. Yeah, because you have more control of what powers you're going to get or abilities you'll get, because you're literally getting hit.

Speaker 1: 52:00

No, I agree, I was just giving you a hard time about the other part, I mean the grimoire would be dope, but like I can't even.

Speaker 1: 52:09

I can't even justify a point Like I can't even justify it, right, because, like it's like, would I rather write about a magic system that makes sense? Yes, but if I am going to have some sort of power, give me the overpowered skill tree, give me a heads up display. A heads up display, yeah, you know what I mean. Either min max my character, you know, like myself, or like how do I farm the most ability points so I can max out the skill tree, or do like get. Basically, I want the way that's going to be able to give me the best option to be able to cheat right like yeah, absolutely if you're giving powers to yourself.

Speaker 1: 53:02

This isn't you know, this isn't like absolutely writing a good story here.

Speaker 2: 53:05

I don't care if it's a good story. Give me the power and let me pick the skill tree so I can create my as much as I complain about overpowered mcs.

Speaker 1: 53:16

If you are offering me a power system, I am going to pick the one that is the power see what do you think is gonna happen?

Speaker 2: 53:24

why wouldn't you?

Speaker 1: 53:25

it's ridiculous right, no, exactly, yeah, I, I don't even I don't want to be a hero. Don't hit you, miss me with that, just you know. I don't want a title, uh, but I so you literally are the trips.

Speaker 2: 53:35

You're literally are the trips right now. You're literally hitting all the things that you're like I'm over it yeah, no, I'm over it.

Speaker 1: 53:41

Just give them all give me.

Speaker 2: 53:43

I remember the one, I'll go full edgelord and give myself a weird name the hero does. Oh, you're going to be like the dude from oh my God, what's the name? You know what I'm talking about? Dude, which one? The one where the guy is like has all the the shadow garden dude, come on, dude.

Speaker 1: 54:06

The playing the piano that I know. You know I'm talking about, I do and it's gone from my evidence and shadow evidence and shadow.

Speaker 2: 54:08

There we go. You're gonna be the evidence and shadow.

Speaker 1: 54:10

Like I don't want to do all that, I'm just trying to be cool I'm gonna find the skill, but I'm gonna find the skill on the tree that lets me play the piano, and then I'm gonna go do that. Yeah, I still think that anime is hilarious, dude, it is just cracks me up. It. It's hilarious, and I'm not even. This is, I don't know. Maybe I'll finish it. That's not the point.

Speaker 2: 54:28

It's not one of those amazing, it's not one of those amazing shows.

Speaker 1: 54:31

It's like, bro, you got to watch this. It's. That's one of those like fun things you watch when you get a chance.

Speaker 2: 54:36

I've seen like four episodes Dude just to up, but it's for no reason to play the npc character. Like what are you talking about? No one will suspect me getting punched in the face. And then it happens and he's like oh, I'm so hurt. Yeah, it's, it's said. The guy's name is. It's fucking hilarious, dude. Yeah, that's, that's a sleeper hit for me, just because the comedy yeah, for sure I get it.

Speaker 1: 55:01

I, I totally get it, because the first episode just had me like bro, what is this dude doing? What is he talking? About you are actually insane, because that's where I thought it was.

Speaker 2: 55:13

No, he really is insane Because he's playing this whole game. He made up a whole villain enemy that's not even real and then formed an army to fight them. They're not even real. And then they became real because somebody started doing it. And army to fight them. They're not even real. And then they became real because somebody started doing it and he's like oh yeah, that was the guys, but he's completely just.

Speaker 1: 55:33

He's a maniac. He's just making it up. Making it up. I love it all right. Well, that's our rundown of the wildest, weirdest and probably most well-built magic systems in anime. But now we want to hear from you. Did we miss a favorite? Completely slander your top pick. Hit us up on realm jumpers podcast at gmailcom and let us know what magic system you think deserves the crown. And if you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow rate. Share realm jumpers with your fellow anime and fantasy nerds later guys. Thank you.