Speaker 1: 0:05

Welcome to Realm Jumpers. I'm Andrew, and this is my co-host, jordan.

Speaker 2: 0:09

Hey, everyone we're here to dive into the worlds of fantasy and anime, bringing you epic stories and unforgettable adventures.

Speaker 1: 0:16

We'll be talking world building, unforgettable villains and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the Realm and everything that makes these genres legendary. So let's jump into the realm. You wake up. The sky's a shade of blue you've never seen before. Your phone is glitching. It's only showing runes. There's an elf walking their dire wolf past your driveway and your neighbor's floating six inches off the ground holding a grimoire. Turns out this was always real the magic, the, the monsters, the other worlds. We just couldn't see it until now. Tonight, on realm jumpers, we're discussing what happens after the veil lifts powers.

Speaker 2: 0:55

Yeah, let's do it. What's up, brother, magic, hey, bud, this is. This is gonna be so fun.

Speaker 1: 1:00

This is like a writer's wet dream, bro yeah, honestly so well, the idea came from our uh hot take and I think it was the last episode and I was like why don't we run with this and like do a whole episode?

Speaker 2: 1:13

dude. I mean, imagine you wake up and like like in the in the opening here and elves walking by. You'd be like yo what's up like? What's going on here, dude?

Speaker 1: 1:22

yeah, this is 100, this is gonna be great man.

Speaker 2: 1:24

This is going to be great man. This is. You know me, I'm totally in. I love you. Know, I'm a writer. I got to do it. Let's go. Do I get powers? Where's the swords? Yeah, well see that's the thing.

Speaker 1: 1:35

It's a fun mental exercise so let's lay down the rules or the lack of rules, perfect lack of rules, but uh, perfect.

Speaker 1: 1:48

Yeah, let's just, we're gonna assume that magic elves, orcs, isekai to other world portals, whatever they always existed. But one day you wake up and it's like everybody in the world at the same time knows that that was all real. Right, okay, um, curtains drawn back. Everything is real. No, no, secret government conspiracy. Like it's not like the government's new, but they were trying to hide it from us and then we found out anyways. Like nobody knew, the government didn't know, we didn't know, nobody freaking knew. Maybe there were some specialized like groups, like and this is what we got to like workshop, right, this is what I'm gonna talk about like did the werewolves always exist in society and just hide themselves?

Speaker 1: 2:24

Cause? I think that's probably what would happen, right? Yeah, absolutely so. Yeah. We as a collectively, we collectively as a people, had no flipping clue that all this stuff we've been reading about and dreaming about and watching anime about was real. Let's flesh it out from there.

Speaker 2: 2:40

Okay, hold on, wait before we go, cause I have to make sure I'm getting it and I want to abide by the rules here. So the way in my brain, the way it is, we're all normal. Going to bed did our podcast sweet, wake up tomorrow morning and it's almost like the whole earth ascended to a higher dimension and now all that stuff has always been there. We just couldn't see it.

Speaker 1: 3:02

Now we can see it, pretty right whatever, however, you want to picture that like your third eye opened up and like now you can see all the stuff that you, all the stuff before.

Speaker 2: 3:10

So all right, we're good, I'm in officially entered the matrix okay, I let's go, I like it all, right.

Speaker 2: 3:16

So we wake up. You see some stuff out on the front lawn and you're like what is going on? I guess our first little, like little tidbit here, right, like what clued you in? I guess our first little tidbit here, right, like what clued you in. I guess it'd be the first time you see somebody flying an elf, a dire wolf running any kind of weird dragon flying off in the distance, right, something going on that's not normal.

Speaker 1: 3:38

So let's work that a little bit further. Like, what do you see in the morning? Like what about your morning routine? Or would you not even notice until like late afternoon? So for a perfect example, I work from home oh yeah, you know I don't always check the news like I, because I I just don't care. Yeah, I'm with you on that. So unless my dog started talking to me, I'm not gonna freaking know for quite a while.

Speaker 2: 4:04

Bro, you're gonna know because if your phone still works, you're getting a text from me. The second I drive go to drive to work at 6 am and go. Why is there a minotaur running down the highway or something you know? Yeah, it's hauling a cart. I mean to be honest, the world would go into abject chaos and anyone with a gun would try to probably shoot someone oh, I mean, I don't disagree, but so what?

Speaker 1: 4:31

what would people? This kind of leads us into our next, you know, like the next little bit, like what do people panic about first bro?

Speaker 2: 4:40

well, I'll tell you what? If yeah, the second you see some werewolf, bigger animal, dragon, any fantasy-type creature. We are definitely going to try to shoot it, at least in America Now. Would the bullet even work? Maybe not. It might not even work. I mean, their skin may be too hard. They may only be able to be damaged by magic. Who knows?

Speaker 1: 5:02

There's different lore, so yeah.

Speaker 2: 5:05

I mean not to go crazy, but if goblins are around they think it's going to happen. So yeah, it's going to get insane, like literally over here In other countries, without weapons, guns at least. What do you do? You look out your window and there's a minotaur or werewolf standing there. You're not going to get a butcher knife.

Speaker 1: 5:22

But here's how I picture. Here's how I picture this working right. So, like in our little workshop fantasy um, you know, the races have always existed, so they probably know about the other races, right? So think about it like this like all the werewolf lore that's out there, all the movies we've ever, oh, yeah, yeah, all the books we've ever read about werewolves, a, it's either one of two situations, right, it's, either a werewolf is printing misinformation, specifically.

Speaker 2: 5:52

So so that way when they get found out.

Speaker 1: 5:54

Yeah, they're like we fucking love silver bro bro, it makes us stronger. Yeah, they get stronger, it's either that right or there's a dragon somewhere going. I'm out all these mofos, I'm telling all their secrets, I'm dropping all the bombs.

Speaker 2: 6:09

Oh dude, it would be like it would be insane. Now the funny part about it would be they're going to be just as surprised as we are. Right, you know like, imagine if for them they're like whoa wait, why is all these humans around now? Maybe they couldn't see us, what they could know, what?

Speaker 1: 6:25

so the way I've been picturing it is like and we can, we can go any way we want with this, but the way I've been picturing it is they always knew we existed. We didn't know they existed. They interact with us all the time. They just pretend to be human oh, sort of like a mix.

Speaker 1: 6:40

Okay, sort of like a mix between harry potter and any pick any freaking genre of like supernatural mixing in with. You know, regular people like supernatural, the tv show, vampire diaries, whatever you know think about how like they blend in and like that's the way I would picture that, like they've always been there, they've always known um, we just never they blend in with us right and then all of a sudden.

Speaker 1: 7:04

Now we know well, dude, if we uh, if that's the case, then there's gonna be some uncomfortable situation to go yeah, well, the first thing I'm gonna panic about, honestly, um, like, if I'm thinking about things to panic about, I'm not gonna panic about dragons, because dragons generally, if you in literature, they're fairly lazy, so you know as long as I'm not worried about not propaganda I'm never, as long as that's not propaganda.

Speaker 1: 7:33

Well, but that's the thing. I'm not going to worry about. It right off the bat. What I'm going to worry about is, like what the fuck our government is going to do to try to like capitalize this, Because I mean absolutely yeah, in any world government. Right, that's. Their main goal is to capitalize on whatever they can. And I'm just like I I'm thinking that scene at the end of the new devil may cry, where he sends off. They all go to hell because he's what's it like?

Speaker 2: 7:57

that's resources, like that's the way I see that going down now, what would be even see the part that would make it more interesting from a story perspective not for us living, it would be terrible is if our guns and shit don't even work on them, because then we're like, oh no, like that's a problem, we're totally screwed because you know, with a giant ass, ak or something you know salt rifle, you could probably take down a few of these bad boys. Right, I mean, why not? Probably not a dragon, maybe not a dragon, but at least you know assault rifle you could probably take down a few of these bad boys, right, I mean why not?

Speaker 2: 8:27

probably not a dragon. Maybe not a dragon, but at least you know something. And then you know dragons reminds me of gate. It actually kind of reminds me of gate. You know what I mean? Remember they're shooting at it. It's not doing nothing to the dragon. They bring in some tomahawk missiles, they start taking it out.

Speaker 1: 8:41

I think I would be interesting. Dude, this is fun, this is hilarious you know, I think it would be interesting. Dude, this is fun. This is hilarious. Actually, I um god. There was a movie, I think it was like matthew mcconaughey and christian bale and yeah, it's called rain.

Speaker 2: 8:51

It's called rain of fire, rain. Okay, that's rain of fire.

Speaker 1: 8:54

I was just that's what I was just thinking of. Like all of a sudden dragons are real. Like bro, what bro?

Speaker 2: 8:59

that movie is insane, especially with the actors you have. Like how did they get? I guess they were early in their careers. But wild movie, dude, total b movies good actors.

Speaker 1: 9:09

I thought the movie was terrible, but like yeah, it's old and dumb. Yeah, the the principle of the movie stuck.

Speaker 2: 9:15

I was like that would be cool to do, you know that would never be made now, but I think it's such an interesting concept. They found it, I think, digging or something for a building or something or mine, and they woke them all up and they yeah, it's a cool concept, though matthew mcconaughey was badass in that movie dude?

Speaker 1: 9:34

oh no, he was. He was like, surprisingly like you'd think that role would have been better for christian bale, but now matthew mcconaughey rocked that dude, he rocked it with the bald head and the beard.

Speaker 2: 9:45

Dude was like scrapping man, but it's a similar concept, except for Dragons. Now, all of it is there. Yeah, yeah, all of it, all of it.

Speaker 1: 9:54

All of it is there. Yeah, yeah, I forgot about Gate dude. That's actually pretty funny.

Speaker 2: 9:59

Yeah, because that's kind of what it was. I mean, it was a portal that, and they literally were like let's go find resources. Remember, america was like we got to get to Japan to get in that gate to find this resource and that's a hundred percent accurate. That would a hundred percent happen. They'd be trying to get something.

Speaker 1: 10:16

So who do you think, who do you think, adapts fastest to the new world?

Speaker 2: 10:22

To the new world. So I, so I mean I would status quo, the prepping thing. I don't know if they would adapt that well, because that would have to say like society fell and we don't really know if it would fall. Maybe it would, maybe it wouldn't. I mean it would fall, but like yeah, I mean preppers would be definitely probably pretty pretty good. As far as gamers and conspiracy theorists, I mean, if the propaganda, misinformation was true, that silver works and all that stuff, conspiracy theorists would probably be okay. But if it doesn't work, we're totally screwed. Man, because that's the first thing you're going to do is you're going to try to shoot a werewolf with a silver bullet or something or a knife or something, and they're going gonna laugh at you, they're gonna be like what are you doing?

Speaker 1: 11:06

look, here's the thing, did nothing. Here's the thing silver bullet or no, rpg blows shit up. So that's the answer to everything. Yes, everything's rpgs.

Speaker 2: 11:19

I think probably an rpg at it I think pep preppers would probably be okay, because they're usually pretty old.

Speaker 1: 11:24

So I agree, bro, yeah, 100, I I think I have slightly different reasoning. But, um, so the prepper crowd and I'm and this is where I like I would have to specify, right, the zombie apocalypse preppers, the ones that are already weird, because regular preppers, yeah, are just regular people, right like they, regular preppers don't even like to be called preppers because of the bad name they've gotten from all the other idiots.

Speaker 2: 11:51

Yeah, connotations, but the zombie ones.

Speaker 1: 11:54

The zombie apocalypse preppers. Now those dudes are going to be ready, Because even if they don't have enough food, you better goddamn believe, bro, they got enough bullets.

Speaker 2: 12:03

Oh yeah, weapons for sure, and they'll have, food'll have both, they'll have.

Speaker 1: 12:06

Oh yeah, they're gonna have food, it's just the bullet to the bullet to food ratios is way out of whack for this yeah, plus they'll believe anything, right, um, so I I would, I would say like zombie apocalypse preppers would probably be the top group, okay, for the longest period of time. Right, absolutely, and unfortunately, like the world government probably is a close second behind that oh, absolutely world governments, a few world governments.

Speaker 1: 12:37

This is gonna I I think this would end up in a to me like this would be world war, whatever situation. Yeah, this would be world war, whatever pick a number. Um, that's, that's the territory we'd be entering, right?

Speaker 2: 12:53

and it would be.

Speaker 1: 12:54

I think at that point, though, they'd be playing a zero-sum game, which I know isn't really fun to think about, but if you put it in the fantasy context, like I think, there's only going to be like three or four actual governments left by the end of this war oh, absolutely right, absolutely so.

Speaker 2: 13:09

Again, I think they as long as our weapons, as long as our weapons actually work yeah, well, I mean okay I would hope they're dragging or dragon or an f-22 like yes c gate.

Speaker 1: 13:22

I think the f-22 might have a couple of things on a dragon I don't know.

Speaker 2: 13:26

Yeah, I mean you would, you'd assume, right yeah um and yeah, the next one's so funny though, like are you gonna go to work? Like no, I'm not going to work. Like what are you?

Speaker 1: 13:37

but the world has to go on right.

Speaker 2: 13:39

So the world has to go on the economy.

Speaker 1: 13:41

Think of the economy I, you know what, just go treasure hunting, because that's the new put the goblins that were yeah. Oh see, now we're entering into like real bad territory of like. Now you're just gonna take advantage of a race of people just because, if you don't think, that dwarves or goblins are getting, the world government's gonna put them in some kind of work program.

Speaker 2: 14:07

It will definitely wow, we are terrible people, dude. It makes me. Here's what.

Speaker 1: 14:13

I've come to the conclusion we're all terrible.

Speaker 2: 14:16

The entire world. Look, if you don't think that the world government, whoever's left, is gonna do to these fantasy creatures that are weaker than us, if, if they are what they did to Kaladin in freaking way of king, you're working, you're doing all this stuff. I'll give you a penny a day, whatever it is. Yeah, dude, ain't no way, man, it's realistic, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1: 14:41

It's realistic. We have a bridge for you to carry.

Speaker 2: 14:43

Dude, those goblins are done. Dude, I mean, that's a wrap.

Speaker 1: 14:46

They're done. I kind of agree. There would be several races that would go extinct near immediately.

Speaker 2: 14:53

And you know, if they were nice, that sucks because, like we're all going to assume they're really terrible because of all the fantasy we've written about goblins, what if they're nice, bro?

Speaker 1: 15:06

What if they're nice, bro? What if they're good people? But that's the thing, bro. Think back, and I agree with you that that's what would happen. But think back if all of these fantasy races have been integrating with human society for all this time and but we were the only ones that didn't know that means they already have a similar, similar moral system that we do so like to. To look at them as lesser at that point would be pretty bad at that point and you know what I mean.

Speaker 2: 15:31

And humanity's still gonna do it come on.

Speaker 1: 15:35

I don't, I don't disagree with you at all.

Speaker 2: 15:38

That is a hundred percent what will happen and if they were paying attention to us, they wouldn't know that we would do that and they'd probably wage war before we did.

Speaker 1: 15:45

Honestly, all right, so you wouldn't go to your job and I'm not gonna say what your job is.

Speaker 2: 15:50

You wouldn't get up, drive to work and go to your job well, I mean, I'd probably get up and drive and realize what the hell's happening. Text you hey, it happened. Get your stuff ready and then go home. Um, yeah, I'm definitely calling out of work, like come on, that's ridiculous. We're talking about like office work. There's there's dragons and stuff to fight. Like what are we doing?

Speaker 1: 16:12

100. I am 100, gonna go straight and either form the adventurers guild hall or I will find the nearest adventurers guild hall, I'd be like hey guys, let's go ahead and register. Can we see if I have magic?

Speaker 2: 16:29

Yes, that would be the number one thing. Is there powers? How do I have them? Is there a way to learn?

Speaker 1: 16:33

them. Do I get a heads up display with an insane skill tree?

Speaker 2: 16:37

With a ding. Can I level up? They're like, no, you cannot. Can I solo level Right? See, if you could? Like you would do this. Like stop pretending. If you could level up and play a real life game of it, people would do it. I'm there's just no way. They wouldn't do it. Dude, I don't care how dangerous it is, I don't care you could die. People would definitely try and I would probably be one of the idiots if I could do it. I would probably try because I it's like it'd be awesome, like it'd be dope. Like you tell me you got hunter powers. What are we talking about? Come on, dude.

Speaker 1: 17:14

So I think solo leveling actually nailed that fairly well, for how the world would react and what people would do. It would be mass chaos and, you're right, everybody would try their hand at it. It's the new get rich quick scheme, except you actually can get rich. So it's not a scheme. So you're right, everybody's going to try it. There's going to be a lot of casualties and then, after a few years, whatever governments are left are going to go OK, we need to start regulating this, because we're going to we're going to run out of people.

Speaker 2: 17:43

Yeah, and also what happened in that, just what happened in real life. They start using the crystals, mining them, using them for, for energy source, whatever all that stuff, one hundred percent would.

Speaker 1: 17:54

Mining them, using them for energy source, whatever All that stuff 100% would be what would play out that way. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:59

I do 100% agree with that. You'd become a celebrity, a famous person. If there's rankings, you know all the whole nonsense, All that would 100% play out that way, because people would love to get famous for being A-rank, S-rank.

Speaker 1: 18:12

B-rank, whatever the hell Come on. I think it all comes down to whether I keep my same job or, like, really give it a go at the adventuring thing. Do I have magic? Can I get magic, like now that humans know that this other world exists, can humans pick up magic? You know what I mean, because if the answer is no, then that might seriously change that, you know.

Speaker 2: 18:37

I think I'm out seriously change my answer yeah, if you can't, if you can't either level up and get skills or stats to build your strength or whatever, if you can't do all that or there's no magic, I'm out. Man, I don't care what's going on. But if you can, a hundred percent, people would try to be adventurers or questers or clear dungeons or whatever. Like dude, I mean that would be the coolest thing in the world Get out of here. I mean that would be. I mean maybe people wouldn't do it, but I would do it. I'd probably do it.

Speaker 1: 19:04

No, I agree. I think there is a huge chunk of people that would at least try it and I think a lot of people you're right would die. Oh yeah, yeah, 100 yeah, because they're gonna be like they just think about it now like you're gonna get 20 florida boys and they're gonna go let's go get a dragon man oh, 100, and then, like, 19 of them will die and one will get a tooth and he'll be rich and you know, and you know what they're gonna to say, what Florida man is going to say Come on guys, how hard could it really be?

Speaker 1: 19:36

They're just big crocodiles.

Speaker 2: 19:38

Let's go get them, we could do it. Come on, let's go do it.

Speaker 1: 19:41

They're just big lizards.

Speaker 2: 19:43

And then if you find out there's treasure in there, oh yeah, dude, absolutely yeah. Yeah, I think that would be a huge thing. Yeah, I think that would be a huge thing. What about the next one? This one's really good. Do the go over this one?

Speaker 1: 19:55

Yeah. So in this new fantasy world where everything's real, would you step through a portal to another place? Actually, you don't even know where the hell it goes. Would you step through a portal, hopefully going to like another world? No info, no guarantee of return.

Speaker 2: 20:13

So that answer only can be really answered if we weren't family men, because if we're family men I can't really do that. But if I'm a little, you know, not a family man and I'm, maybe I should. If I'm not a family man of this age, or if I was 20, something, I mean, why not? At that point you might as well, if you're gonna be an adventurer.

Speaker 2: 20:32

Grab your family and jump through bro, as a family man, that's a whole another game. Man, I don't know, that's so sketchy at that point it's the bottom of the ocean the whole world's sketchy rip the whole world's sketchy though, dude, I don't know man, I don't know if I could jump through a portal with kids and stuff and just hope it works out. That's kind of of nutty.

Speaker 1: 20:53

Yeah, your kids are going to be wanting to jump through. You're going to be like listen guys.

Speaker 2: 20:57

I've seen every East.

Speaker 1: 20:58

I've seen every easy guy ever made. This is going to go one of two ways we are going to end up in a dungeon or we're going to be the Kings of the world. But you know, very good possibility we're all going to die as soon as we step side note.

Speaker 2: 21:13

That would be an awesome uh story is someone with a family goes through and they end up becoming, you know, trying to take over the other world or whatever, or becoming. I bet you somebody has already done it, dude. I just we just gave an idea to somebody. That would be a great story, to be honest I yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:27

I mean, that would probably be a pretty good story.

Speaker 2: 21:28

I bet you somebody's already done it, though, I mean you would know you read a lot of them. Have you ever come across one like that?

Speaker 1: 21:34

probably husband, wife and kids sister and like sister or cousin or like brother, but not an entire family. Okay, well, there you go. But I mean, if you think about it, when an entire class gets like isekai to another world, that's kind of the same thing there is one, I know it's.

Speaker 2: 21:55

It's not a family but it is. It's close enough like yeah, it's pretty close, I don't know, it'd probably still be a good story yeah, if you're right, what's the?

Speaker 1: 22:03

power dynamic there. What's the power dynamic there? I guess it depends on who wants. Who accidentally drove you through the portal, right? So like, if it's the sun, if it's like the, the idiot rebellious kid runs, it's their fault. Yeah, there's gonna be a lot of problems, right?

Speaker 2: 22:18

it's guaranteed to be problems yeah, he's gonna run in, and then you gotta go after him and where everyone's right?

Speaker 1: 22:23

yeah, yeah and then you're gonna be pissed that you're in another world. So you're like what's the trade-off right? Where do you like? Better it better be it better be.

Speaker 2: 22:32

You know, the only way it would work would be or a good, not the only way, but one way would be the rebellious kid. There's a portal. No, you know, the parents are like, don't mess with it, or whatever's happening. He sneaks out, does it? They have to go in and now they're all stuck over there. And then it would have to be either powers or leveling up or something interesting at that point for you to not like beat the living hell out of your kid, because how dare you do this to me? Because imagine you show up in a dungeon and there is no leveling up, there is no fucking powers. You're in a dungeon.

Speaker 1: 23:07

So you're telling me this isn't level up with my level two cheat power in another world where I can be the laziest POS ever?

Speaker 2: 23:18

Wait and then add my stupid damn son dragged us to this stupid damn world.

Speaker 1: 23:24

All right, that probably exists already, hey someone's going to make it.

Speaker 2: 23:29

Someone's going to make it dude, Absolutely that could be a good story, though, man. Yeah, that's a good idea. That could be really interesting in a in a family dynamic. The classroom thing is one thing but a family dynamic is different. You know that could work pretty cool.

Speaker 1: 23:43

What if you flip it around and it's like the dad's fault he wasn't paying attention. To start like, let's say they're on a road trip. You know what I mean dad's not paying attention and he's already getting like that. He's already getting heat from his wife and the kids.

Speaker 2: 23:56

He's on his phone too much.

Speaker 1: 23:57

Yeah, right, whatever. And so they're like, hey, we're going to go on this camping trip to be a better family. Oh, dude, and you know he accidentally dropped into the portal because he looked at his phone.

Speaker 2: 24:09

Oh, dude, that would be hilarious. Oh, I'm going to have to write this story. Damn you, you're going to make me write a story, all right, no, no, no, I have too many things to write. I can't write that right now. One day, dude, that would be the best as a dad and a husband. Oh my God, dude, you could really. You could really, dude. This is going to grow on my Damn you, man. This is going to be in my head. Now I'm going to end up writing this damn story.

Speaker 1: 24:35

You really workshop some stuff with us Dude.

Speaker 2: 24:39

Great. Now it's in my head. This is your fault, sort of unrelated Wait, wait. I got a notification, checked my phone and I ended up in another world. What's the name of?

Speaker 1: 24:51

this fucking thing. Or or like yeah, or my dad, my idiot dad checked his phone while he was driving. We went through a portal and now I'm stuck here with my dumb family. Oh dude, yes, absolutely, we're writing this that's probably what the title is gonna be dude.

Speaker 2: 25:08

I mean it has to be. They're always, they're getting longer. At this point we need a paragraph, not just two sentences. Let's go, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 25:15

Well, I don't know how you like workshop your idea this is sort of related, but not I don't know how you workshop your ideas when you're going to write something. But I was like just I don't know power plotting or like just game planning, some ideas for like stuff I wanted to write about, for like stuff I wanted to write about. So one idea was, um, like the supernatural world, sort of not the supernatural tv show, but like just a supernatural world, but set in, set in the revolutionary war, oh dude. And I was like. I was like I already know how the start of this book's gonna go. It's gonna be something prologuey and it's gonna be like. I was there the night of the uh, boston tea party and let me tell you what was in that water wasn't tea oh, that's a great see this is this is the.

Speaker 2: 26:01

This is the crazy like that you have a scene that pops in your head or you create whatever happens. You get a scene in your head and then from that one damn scene you'll start developing a whole ass hurricane of a story around it, just to get to that one scene. That started this entire stupid thing. Dude, every time I've written anything that's how it's gone there's been like I want to write this one specific thing, but then it's like how do you get to that thing? What happens after that thing? Yeah, and half the time it's either at the end. You get to that thing, what happens after that? Yeah, and it's, it's half the time. It's either at the end of the book, half of the book, and then you finally write the scene and you're like I wrote the scene, I built the whole story to get to the scene. It's so weird, but that would be a great freaking opener to like yo, what is it? And you don't know at first.

Speaker 1: 26:54

And then it it says something and you're like wait a minute, what? Yeah, dude, absolutely I love you. Want to hear the other one I came up with. Yeah, yeah, that's good, dude, I was, um, I I was cruising tiktok, as we do every once in a while, sure and you know something that's like it's gotten stuck in my feed lately, um, like it's these, ai created things oh god, it's basically what?

Speaker 1: 27:12

no, no, no, no, um. It basically like tells the story, like, just it's like this. It tells the story and images of, like what happened to a character's life. Right then, I saw, I saw one for like oh, dude, I've dry. Yes, yeah, I saw one for jariah and then dude like almost back to back, I saw the one for griffith and then I saw the one for Guts.

Speaker 2: 27:33

Oh no, I can't do Griffith.

Speaker 1: 27:35

And I was like, so I'm sitting there just going. What would happen if a dude like Guts, who's kind of close to a Paladin class in D&D right, kind of close, it's not exactly? Don't at me in the freaking comments, man, because yes. I know he's a berserker.

Speaker 2: 27:53

You're getting roasted on that. He's a berserker.

Speaker 1: 28:00

But the point to where I was going is like what if a dude like guts in a fantasy setting like D&D with D&D rules, and he, you know, one day just decides he's tired of all the killing and like he makes a vow to himself that he's going to contain himself? You know what I mean? Like I'm going to contain this beast. Right, like that, I've got it. I've got to contain this beast. I'm making the vow now to contain this beast. And then all of a sudden your fucking sword starts glowing because your vow was accepted. And like you're now, you're a fucking paladin.

Speaker 2: 28:32

And you now, you have to like figure out that, yeah, but you have to maintain that vow while still like fighting, or like a paladin.

Speaker 1: 28:42

Yeah, dude, that's a cool idea I come up with real mind trippy shit and then I never write it. Dude, you have to write this stuff. Bro, I should just sell my ideas. No, I'm not. I'm keeping both of those you got to.

Speaker 2: 28:53

Yeah, I know it's on the internet, but I mean so what take?

Speaker 1: 28:56

it. Write it because I like, and I was thinking about this and I was like, honestly, even if somebody else did have the idea, it's not like we're gonna write the story the exact same way.

Speaker 1: 29:06

Right, it's, it's yep that's, you know, like Brandon Sanderson is a freaking fantastic writer, and you know you take Brandon Sanderson and Stephen King, both fantastic writers give them the same freaking idea and tell them to write a story and it's going to go two wildly different directions, absolutely. So I'm not really that worried about it. But yeah, like I don't know, I like game shop, I like game planning ideas and then just not doing it.

Speaker 2: 29:35

Dude, you have to do something with these at some point. You have you know what.

Speaker 1: 29:39

They're probably just going to have to be short story type things. I think that's probably what is it?

Speaker 2: 29:43

Novellas or short stories or whatever? Like it's fun, dude, you're, you're such a good writer, you really because you read. You are you just you really because you've read? You are you just, you've read so much stuff so it's like it's all in there you know, twirling around how to how to phrase it up. No, I think those are cool ideas and that's a good. That's a really interesting concept of he kind of makes this vow, maybe on a whim, or just kind of exhausted with his life, and just kind of like I'm sick of this shit. Like, or I'm sick of being the killer, the berserker, and he says it on a whim, maybe, and then it activates some shit and now.

Speaker 1: 30:24

He's probably stronger than he ever will be, but he has to have these little vows, the rule and the vow. Yeah, because as a paladin, you have to maintain your vow. Yeah, that's a good idea yeah, that's a good like you, you just vowed to contain the beast and now, like you, you can't really just walk away from that now that you've accidentally made that vow and uh, how do you deal with that? What do you? You know what I mean. Like what do you do?

Speaker 2: 30:44

I don't know.

Speaker 1: 30:45

Yes, these are just the weird things that hit me and where I'm like dude, it could be right about that.

Speaker 2: 30:50

sometimes it could be. He lost some comrades after any. Another bound, you know group of friends and he's like I am sick of this and you know this, or maybe even he is a berserker, so maybe there was some friendly fire action that happened, you know.

Speaker 1: 31:06

Right yeah.

Speaker 2: 31:07

And he's just like I'm done. That's it, dude, you got to write it. Sorry, you have to write it.

Speaker 1: 31:11

So, anyways, that's like my segue into yeah. But yeah, I know I completely changed the topic there.

Speaker 2: 31:19

All right.

Speaker 1: 31:21

What do we have for Realm members this week? Dude.

Speaker 2: 31:23

Yeah. So Anime Expo kicked off, which super excited, because Black Clover got announced, which hell, yeah, I am so ready because I read it, the manga and this next part is so good, so it's gonna be dude. It's full of fights, it's dude, it's. It's really epic, it's. I'm so excited about it. Uh, so I know I texted you about it. You're like you go um, but interestingly, a show called demons of the shadow realms coming out and it's from the creator of full metal alchemists, so that's pretty cool. That was announced. So they didn't really say much about what it's about. Um the guy. No, it doesn't any kind of watch. It looks like, looks like edward kind of. So I'm, I'm in. You know, automatically I'm in. Um, your favorite slash hated re0, season four is coming back. I know I know how you feel about uh, which people love that the worst it's just dude.

Speaker 2: 32:24

I hate super he's kind of obnoxious. I don't. I don't like that dude. My thing is he doesn't seem to really grow like. He's not really growing in strength. I guess his friends are his strength. Whatever, the main character needs to be able to brawl some shit. Dude, like something now.

Speaker 1: 32:41

Well, I'm sorry, okay, that's where that's where I'll disagree with you a little bit. The main character either has to grow in physical strength or magical strength, or he has a person in emotional depth. Like you have to right you. You have to grow in power or grow as a person, and Subaru, but I think he is.

Speaker 2: 33:01

I think that's the thing is because he was last season. He did grow a lot in the last season as a person, so I think that's the whole storyline.

Speaker 2: 33:09

I should probably catch up just to see, I'll probably still hate him but I will say the last season, which I think it was three, yeah, three. He became more of a leader role and more selfless. So that was interesting, because he's kind of not like that a lot. But he, uh, yeah, he changed also, javascript incarnation season three is coming back in 2026, you know you know, you see that you know you like javascript incarnation.

Speaker 1: 33:34

Come on you know, here's the thing, bro. I I love what some of it is right, but I can't like I love eris little the red-haired. Oh yeah, check, yeah, um, like dude, that's basically Urza Scarlet as a 13 year old, a hundred percent. So you know, I'm about it. Like, I like the character. She's a hothead, she makes for good anime watching and she makes for good Like I don't know. Just her scenes were like yeah, no, there's beating the shit out of everything. It's just funny.

Speaker 2: 34:12

Yeah, but it doesn't I.

Speaker 1: 34:14

For me and yeah, I don't care if this sounds preachy or not, I don't know for me, the benefit of like seeing the good scenes isn't outweighed by the fact that it's creepy. Dude, I don't know man you're talking about. Uh, yeah just what he is just Just Rudy, I don't know. It's not for me, man Like. The animation is damn near flawless. It looks, it looks great.

Speaker 2: 34:41

Amazing. Yeah, the fight is good.

Speaker 1: 34:44

Yeah, the fight scenes are framed well. I think it's all great. It's the personality.

Speaker 2: 34:51

It's the, it's the, it's the creep factor, like T-Bate say whatever about the animation, but the character, personality of Arthur it's not creepy at all, like literally at all. With good old Rudy it comes off. I mean, I guess he's changing and growing fine, but it still comes off weird. It's a weird way to take a character and maybe that's just we're western, so it's like that. Maybe over there they don't see it that way, but I really think that it is. It's a very weird thing because I do like the show, I like the story, I like the artwork, but his internal monologue is is so sometimes just creepy, like it just comes off weird man yeah, he always defaults back to the inner creep the inner creep, yeah, and it's uh, and I guess he's growing a little bit out of it in the recent stuff, but I don't know.

Speaker 2: 35:48

I don't know if he'll ever be out of it I don't know.

Speaker 1: 35:51

I would rather invest my time in t-bait. I at me in the comments. I don't give a shit, um I do like arthur man.

Speaker 2: 36:02

Arthur's a cool dude. I like that story man. I just need them to get better artwork like every like, oh, it's so every time I say t-bait versus jobless reincarnation, people get triggered and I'm like you get triggered.

Speaker 1: 36:15

Get triggered I specifically said, I'm not talking about the anime. I realize the animation is shit that is not what I'm talking about, you know we all realize it.

Speaker 2: 36:24

And then the last thing is, uh, which I don't know if you, if you watch it, but cyberpunk edge runners the anime they made for cyberpunk on netflix great, it was awesome they're making another season.

Speaker 1: 36:35

I think I watched six episodes yeah, they're.

Speaker 2: 36:38

they did another season. I don't want to spoil the first season. It's been out long enough. But the character from the first season is not in the second season because he's dead, isn't he Dead as?

Speaker 1: 36:48

I'll spoil it. Yeah, he's dead.

Speaker 2: 36:50

So I don't know how good it'll be without David. He was pretty cool. But yeah, people are excited. See, I didn't really like him. I didn't really like him. I liked him, if I remember him right. This is a weird show, though I liked the girl. The girl was cool. I don't know, maybe she's in it and he's not. I know he's not. Well, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1: 37:10

It was cool. I don't remember what happened. I watched about six episodes and then, yeah, life, and I never came back to it. And then I was just like, if I didn't really care this, like if I really cared I would have finished it. And then I was just like, well, whatever, yeah, he dies, it sucks.

Speaker 2: 37:26

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 37:27

Which I knew, that Somebody, you know, I think I saw a Reddit comment like four years ago yeah, dude's been dead. Yeah, I don't know I. Yeah, dude's been dead.

Speaker 2: 37:40

Um, yeah, I don't know I yeah, if they're doing another one, I'll give it a shot. See what it's about. Yeah, I don't know if the girl's in it, maybe she is she, probably maybe she's the main character. Now I don't know, but that was that. Did that, one did blow up, I mean hey do anime make, make more anime.

Speaker 2: 37:51

I don't I'm all for it. Some of them are hit, some of them are not. But you know, just do it. Stuff on something like that is pretty lends itself well to anime too. Cyberpunk like it kind of leans right into it, and more cyberpunk like that style of stuff. We don't see that a lot. So I'm a big fan of ghost, of the shell man that's. I grew up on that show. I love that show we'll see.

Speaker 1: 38:15

But don't we see a lot of that stuff I mean psychopaths goes in the shell, like that's all that advanced tech society stuff I feel like we're getting there's nothing wrong with it. I loved psychopaths, um, and the little bit of edge runners. I did watch, you know, I loved it, it's I didn't have a problem with it. I, I don't know. I just stopped watching it and never went back. So clearly it didn't make that big an impact on me you just you got wrapped up in other stuff.

Speaker 2: 38:40

That's what it was.

Speaker 1: 38:41

Yeah, did you. Uh, speaking of Netflix shows, did you watch that? Lara Croft, Tomb Raider or whatever that is? Did not watch it. I heard it was good, but I don't know Same. I haven't watched it either.

Speaker 2: 38:59

I would have watched it, but I it didn't seem too interesting and I was like, well, I don't know. And then I heard some stuff. I was like I don't really have time, so I never really went back to it. I feel like they just can't seem to get that character right these days. But maybe I'm wrong, I don't know did they ever get it right, though?

Speaker 1: 39:09

I mean, I don't think angelina jolie was necessarily like the movies. I don't know where the movie's great, no, no, where the movie is fun to watch. Yes, yeah, but yeah, we were younger Did. Angelina Jolie get it right. Is that like the heart of the character that they wanted to portray?

Speaker 1: 39:25

I don't know. I don't know what the real character is supposed to be like. So you know, I kind of go off of the newer video games for what the character should be. And if I'm going off of that, then the anime on Netflix probably is in line with the character, because I think that takes place right after one of the games.

Speaker 2: 39:44

Oh, ok, that makes sense. It did look like one of the games, so.

Speaker 1: 39:47

I don't know. I haven't heard anything negative about it.

Speaker 2: 39:49

Didn't they do a movie, like a couple of years ago that flopped? That was like the game. I swear they did a movie. Dude, there was a movie and I think it was kind of like one of the newer games. There was two, there was two movies. Well, maybe it's just not a good character anymore.

Speaker 1: 40:03

I don't know the movies weren't that great. See the movie that I saw. Wasn't that great it was okay but it wasn't awesome. Yeah, yeah, I don't know um well it hit like uncharted did the uncharted movie and I love the uncharted video game, but the uncharted movie was miscast.

Speaker 2: 40:22

Why in the world would you put mark rawberg? I saw the dude. What are you doing, dude?

Speaker 1: 40:27

yeah I and look I like tom holland, stop there he's not nathan drake right, yeah like, yeah, what are, what do we do?

Speaker 2: 40:34

and you should have just made, made, you should have made mark walbert nathan drake and just let him be like 30 or 40, like whatever. Like, what are we talking?

Speaker 1: 40:41

about. I mean there was a. So there was a call like 10 years ago to make um Nathan Fillion, nathan Uh he did a little shit, probably he did a little short.

Speaker 2: 40:53

It worked. Look it up. He would have been amazing. Check that out. He would have been amazing as nathan drake, but mark walberg as sully and tom freaking holland who casted this like I like the kid. But let's stop pretending like you're not nathan drake, dude, your voice is too whiny. Sorry, just the way it is, you know. Sorry, yeah, bad, but that. I guess that made money though, which makes no sense, but Hollywood, I guess I mean yeah.

Speaker 2: 41:21

I watched it In the theater, did you really On Netflix? I think it was on Netflix. I really did. Wow. Yeah, they lost him at Tom Holland as old Nathan. What do we got for a hot? Take this time, all right, all right.

Speaker 1: 41:34

What anime or manga character would make the best survival guide in a post reveal world? So this world that we've been discussing what anime or manga character would make the best survival guide for this new Somebody smart? Oh, he would have every answer to everything.

Speaker 2: 42:02

I've got mine, but I'm going to let you go because first I have to think, I have to think I don't know. Let me think, go, you go. I'm gonna think why you're doing it. It's got to be deku, really. Oh, because the research angle, because he yeah he's pretty good, makes guides for everything he does make. Make guides, god. He'd be useful, wouldn't he? Yeah, because he's going to research, every aspect of all of it. No, you need a conspiracy theorist, that's what you need.

Speaker 2: 42:28

I liked my pick. Yours is good. Let me, I don't even know. Hold on, dude, I have no idea. Dude Goku, well, if you're doing powers, you need a bodyguard, but I think Punch this guy.

Speaker 1: 42:41

He was strong.

Speaker 2: 42:42

As a guide. 100%, he's a great dude. I don't have anything, I don't know. Man, come on. Probably you need someone smart, bro. Fuck, I'm going to have to go, let's see. Oh, you know who's a diabolical smart guy that would help you take over Lelouch, okay.

Speaker 1: 43:05

Yeah, see, that would work.

Speaker 2: 43:06

Because he would know how to manipulate whatever you needed to do to be able to survive. He's a survivalist.

Speaker 1: 43:13

He would probably be pretty good yeah yeah, yeah, I don't know, I just like be pretty good, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know, I just like I wrote that question and then, like two minutes later, I was like, oh, this has got to be deku.

Speaker 2: 43:23

I mean, he's so good at freaking, taking notes. Yeah, he knows everything about every hero. You don't think he would be obsessed about all these supernatural creatures and be writing about 100 100.

Speaker 1: 43:33

He's going to be following around a dragon trying to get him to like answer questions, absolutely, absolutely. He don't even need the power it's like shut up and take some gold.

Speaker 2: 43:44

Go away, go away. Yeah, that's a good one, dude. This is a fun episode. I like it.

Speaker 1: 43:48

Yeah yeah, oh yeah, dude, I had a blast All right. So if tomorrow, you found out magic was real and always had been, what's the first thing you'd do? Hit us up with your class, your race, your day one reaction, or even your first big mistake in the new world. You can drop it in the comments, email us at realmjumperspodcast at gmailcom or shout into a ley line, whatever works. See ya Peace. Thank you.